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diff --git a/meeting-logs/20230108.txt b/meeting-logs/20230108.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..3953acc --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20230108.txt @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<@ulm> !proj council [20:00] +<willikins> (council@gentoo.org) ajak, dilfridge, gyakovlev, mattst88, mgorny, + sam, ulm +<@ulm> agenda is here: + https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/a24e9a4d7c769d9e09f5dc2312ee9452 +<@ulm> roll call +* mattst88 here +* dionysos here +* mgorny here +*** dionysos (~quassel@gentoo/developer/dilfridge) is now known as dilfridge +* dilfridge here +* ajak here +<@ajak> sam_: [20:01] +<@ulm> gyakovlev: sam_: +* ulm here +<@ulm> let's wait until 19:05 [20:02] +<@dilfridge> happy new year everyone, let it have less unpleasant surprises + than the last one +<@ulm> I expect this to be a short meeting anyway +* mattst88 is going to remember to try to avoid chairing Nov/Dec meetings in + the future :P [20:03] +* dilfridge is going to remember to try to avoid chairing +<@ajak> lol +<@ulm> so, 5 council members are present, so we have a quorum [20:05] +<@ulm> let's proceed +<@ulm> open bugs +<@ulm> there's only one public bug +<@ulm> bug 729062 +<willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/729062 "Services and Software which + is critical for Gentoo should be developed/run in the Gentoo + namespace"; Gentoo Council, unspecified; IN_P; jstein:council +<@ulm> any progress there? [20:06] +<@ajak> i'd say we should reassign it elsewhere but not sure if there's + anywhere better to assign it +<@mattst88> don't think so +<@ajak> but, nothing for us to do now anyway +<@mattst88> I think we should definitely unassign it +<@ulm> I'm going to ping jstein about what to do there +<@ulm> there's two private bugs, but I don't think there's progress for these + either [20:07] +<@ulm> so, proceed to open floor? +<@ajak> but isn't there glep76 movement? +<@ulm> it's not on the agenda [20:08] +<@ajak> + https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/glep.git/commit/?h=glep76&id=f8c192768983929e0d028d58e32e3e6e9b4d8458 + was approved last time +<@ajak> it's relevant to one of the private bugs +<@ulm> it's waiting for trustees approval +<@ajak> ah [20:09] +<@ulm> or at least I think that was the conclusion last time +<@ulm> open floor +<+arthurzam> I'm sorry, but I still see missing summaries in + https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Meeting_logs +<@ulm> I've one item [20:10] +<@ulm> arthurzam: can you file a bug, or shall I? +<+arthurzam> ulm: better you, as I'm very tired +<@ajak> i don't think that's necessary, matt's written them and sent them for + review to coucnil@ +<@ajak> council@* +<@dilfridge> 2022 in retrospect is under construction [20:11] +<@ajak> so just waiting for a push i guess? +<@ulm> ah, right :) +<+arthurzam> ok, thank you :) +<@ulm> + https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-pms/message/3f70244e989c0e1f2fe7759f85bc06a5 +<@ajak> mattst88: please push nov/dec meeting summaries +<@ulm> this is a clarification for variable scope of D [20:12] +<@ulm> and ED +<@ulm> basically, we'd update PMS to follow portage there +<@dilfridge> thanks +<+arthurzam> (pkgcore & pkgcheck are simple to update to match, so not a + blocker) +<@ulm> just wanting to make the council aware of it +<@mgorny> i can't say i like it [20:13] +<@mgorny> but that's probably something to be discussed on #-pms +<@mgorny> (sorry, didn't have time earlier) [20:14] +<@ulm> mgorny: it's a restriction that belongs in tree policy, not something + to be enforced by the PM +<@ulm> so, do I push this, or do we vote on it in the next meeting? +<@mgorny> i'm not council-blocking it but please give it some more thought + after hearing me out ;-) [20:15] +<@mgorny> because i feel like we're addressing the wrong problem here +<@ulm> well, either we update PMS, or we have portage enforce current PMS + wording +<@ulm> which will make all hell break loose +<@mattst88> ajak: I pushed the summaries a bit before the meeting +<@ajak> oh thanks [20:16] +<@ajak> in that case i'll update the page +<@mgorny> ulm: we can also choose the hard way, and make portage qawarn people + into using D properly +<@mgorny> with minimal direct fallout [20:17] +<@ajak> ah nevermind, you just did it :) +<@mgorny> ulm: ah, sorry, i've just reread the patch +<@mgorny> you're saying ebuilds are not allowed to put files there before + src_install, so i'm fine with the change as-is [20:18] +<@ulm> anyway, I suggest we discuss the PMS change on mailing lists if + necessary +<@ulm> since we won't have much progress here +<@ulm> anything else for open floor? [20:19] +* ulm bangs the gavel [20:20] +<@ulm> meeting closed +<@mgorny> thanks! +<@ajak> thanks! +<@ulm> thanks everybody +<@dilfridge> thanks +*** ulm (~ulm@gentoo/developer/ulm) has set the topic for #gentoo-council: + "234th meeting: 2023-02-12 19:00 UTC | + https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20230212T19 | + https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council | + https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/decisions.pdf" |