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initial trustee meeting logs import
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+Jan 19 14:01:38 <NeddySeagoon> Roll call.
+Jan 19 14:01:41 <dabbott> here
+Jan 19 14:01:42 <SwifT> I'm here
+Jan 19 14:01:53 <NeddySeagoon> I'm logging .. I think
+Jan 19 14:01:59 <dabbott> me too
+Jan 19 14:02:12 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, Betelgeuse ?
+Jan 19 14:03:06 <NeddySeagoon> Lets start anyway. 3 is a quorum
+Jan 19 14:03:42 <NeddySeagoon> Treasurer Report ... I guess that needs quantumsummers|c ?
+Jan 19 14:04:03 <dabbott> yes it does
+Jan 19 14:04:04 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: here
+Jan 19 14:04:14 <quantumsummers|c> trying to get the boy down for a nap
+Jan 19 14:04:24 <NeddySeagoon> Hi Betelgeuse quantumsummers|c
+Jan 19 14:04:28 <quantumsummers|c> back shortly, hopefully.
+Jan 19 14:04:34 <quantumsummers|c> hey NeddySeagoon :-)
+Jan 19 14:04:41 <quantumsummers|c> this Dad thing is a pain in the arse
+Jan 19 14:04:45 <quantumsummers|c> sometimes
+Jan 19 14:05:00 * quantumsummers|c tries to get Linc to sleep.
+Jan 19 14:05:13 <SwifT> =)
+Jan 19 14:05:22 <NeddySeagoon> Foundation Activity Tracker ... nothing listed as pending - unless anyone knows differently
+Jan 19 14:06:14 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, it gets worse as they get older ... have you had to ask him for your car keys yet ?
+Jan 19 14:08:20 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, do you need to say a few words about Quarterly Financial Statements on the Wiki ?
+Jan 19 14:08:45 <dabbott> its just a reminder, waiting for some numbers to continue
+Jan 19 14:09:20 <NeddySeagoon> now we are back to quantumsummers
+Jan 19 14:10:03 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, you cold post the history while you wait for current numbers.
+Jan 19 14:10:13 <NeddySeagoon> could*
+Jan 19 14:10:40 <dabbott> sure
+Jan 19 14:10:51 <dabbott> its all old
+Jan 19 14:11:45 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, well, if we are going to migrate it all, you can start any time. The 2014 test page looks good
+Jan 19 14:12:03 <dabbott> ok will do :)
+Jan 19 14:12:48 <dabbott> here is the latest I have http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/finances/2012-treasurer-report.xml
+Jan 19 14:13:13 <dabbott> how far back do you want to go http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/finances/index.xml
+Jan 19 14:14:42 <dabbott> missing from June 30 2012 untill present
+Jan 19 14:14:55 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, back to 2004, when the foundation was founded. quantumsummers had the early data .. or most of it on the olb web page
+Jan 19 14:14:59 <dabbott> afaik
+Jan 19 14:15:34 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, is your wee one asleep ? is so, its your turn ... Gentoo Trademark License Agreement
+Jan 19 14:15:42 <SwifT> ok
+Jan 19 14:15:45 <SwifT> yes, she's silent
+Jan 19 14:16:01 <SwifT> okay; i've updated the draft licence agreement according to the feedback received
+Jan 19 14:16:08 <NeddySeagoon> Heh, thats not the same thing :)
+Jan 19 14:16:22 <SwifT> it now also includes references to gentoo e.V. and i've sent it to alex
+Jan 19 14:16:38 <SwifT> I think it would be nice if the agreement would match both gentoo foundation and gentoo e.V.
+Jan 19 14:17:05 <SwifT> but I haven't pushed him to discuss it with the e.V. members yet - i'll do so (just forgot that)
+Jan 19 14:17:08 <Betelgeuse> yes that's a good coal
+Jan 19 14:17:10 <Betelgeuse> goal
+Jan 19 14:17:24 <SwifT> we're not in a hurry, but I don't want the effort to go to sleep either
+Jan 19 14:17:27 <Betelgeuse> SwifT: One thing I noticed when reading it from their perspetive that the lingo is geared towards the US/UK
+Jan 19 14:17:30 <SwifT> unlike my offspring :p
+Jan 19 14:17:38 <Betelgeuse> SwifT: Germany does not use for example common law
+Jan 19 14:17:56 <NeddySeagoon> We did try to contact the e.V. when ferris was a trustee but never got a response at that time. We do need to work with them
+Jan 19 14:18:05 <Betelgeuse> Ideally both a US and European lawyer would look it over
+Jan 19 14:18:14 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: Also we should really look at cross licensing
+Jan 19 14:18:29 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: We have assets in Europe so we should ideally have something in palce with e.V.
+Jan 19 14:19:32 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, the e.V. predates the foundation but the registration of the mank by the e.V. mas carried out with drobbins encouragement
+Jan 19 14:19:55 <SwifT> well, I'll try to get e.V. members feedback on it and see how far we can get. Having lawyers from both US and EU review it would be nice, but perhaps mostly after consensus ;)
+Jan 19 14:20:24 <NeddySeagoon> Maybe I should say Gentoo Technologies Inc encouragement
+Jan 19 14:20:55 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, yes, thats a worth while goal
+Jan 19 14:21:43 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: I am not sure how far that would help if we got into a dispute
+Jan 19 14:22:23 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, probably not at all.
+Jan 19 14:22:55 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: exactly
+Jan 19 14:23:08 <SwifT> other than that, no news on the Gentoo trademar license agreement
+Jan 19 14:23:55 <NeddySeagoon> The foundation inherited from Gentoo Technologies Inc and the e.V. was encouraged by Gentoo Technologies Inc. We need to work together
+Jan 19 14:24:52 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, your turn ... mafbe give Linc a wee dram to make him sleepy :)
+Jan 19 14:25:25 <SwifT> let him watch the output of "emerge -e @world"
+Jan 19 14:25:25 <SwifT> :p
+Jan 19 14:25:33 <NeddySeagoon> hehe
+Jan 19 14:28:42 <SwifT> I think Linc is making quantumsummers|c sleepy :p
+Jan 19 14:29:10 <NeddySeagoon> Lets move on to bugs while we wait for Linc :)
+Jan 19 14:29:50 <NeddySeagoon> bug 494524
+Jan 19 14:29:52 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/494524 "games-emulation/m64py: Don't distribute files without the required license"; Gentoo Linux, Games; UNCO; franzschrober:games
+Jan 19 14:30:43 <NeddySeagoon> Nothing to add at the moment
+Jan 19 14:31:24 <NeddySeagoon> bug 492386
+Jan 19 14:31:25 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/492386 "Fund the setup of an opensource chocolate to use at conventions"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; dabbott:trustees
+Jan 19 14:31:50 <NeddySeagoon> I recall that we voted not to fund chocolate
+Jan 19 14:32:03 <SwifT> indeed
+Jan 19 14:32:07 <dabbott> we can close that one
+Jan 19 14:32:26 <NeddySeagoon> OK
+Jan 19 14:34:08 <NeddySeagoon> done
+Jan 19 14:34:18 <dabbott> thanks NeddySeagoon
+Jan 19 14:35:05 <Betelgeuse> there's the follow up to the thread about just allowing trademark usage
+Jan 19 14:35:36 <SwifT> there's a bug on that?
+Jan 19 14:35:45 <Betelgeuse> SwifT: nope
+Jan 19 14:35:55 <Betelgeuse> SwifT: at least I have only seen in emails
+Jan 19 14:36:20 <SwifT> i can't remember discussions on just allowing trademark usage :(
+Jan 19 14:36:42 <SwifT> you can't just allow the usage, because then you lose the trademark afaik
+Jan 19 14:37:11 <NeddySeagoon> did bug 473214 ever get fixed ?
+Jan 19 14:37:12 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/473214 "Non-paypal contribution method"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; rich0:trustees
+Jan 19 14:37:40 <NeddySeagoon> We have another pending request
+Jan 19 14:38:06 <Betelgeuse> SwifT: for this specific case of course
+Jan 19 14:38:28 <Betelgeuse> SwifT: Though I think I instructed to make a specific request it was left somewhat in the air
+Jan 19 14:38:30 <SwifT> Betelgeuse: ah ok, sorry - misinterpretet the chat then
+Jan 19 14:39:51 <NeddySeagoon> I think thats all the bugs for now .. do we need to discuss any others ?
+Jan 19 14:40:24 <SwifT> i'm still hoping to write up a policy statement draft to look at (as per bug #351045)
+Jan 19 14:40:25 <willikins> SwifT: https://bugs.gentoo.org/351045 "www site needs a privacy policy"; Website www.gentoo.org, Social Contract; CONF; robbat2:infra-bugs
+Jan 19 14:40:36 <SwifT> depending on available time though
+Jan 19 14:41:01 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, yep,
+Jan 19 14:41:45 <NeddySeagoon> Thats everthing on the agenda apart from quantumsummers stuff.
+Jan 19 14:42:22 <NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - 16 Feb 2014 19:00 UTC ... wfm
+Jan 19 14:42:37 <dabbott> fine here
+Jan 19 14:42:47 <SwifT> yup, think so as well
+Jan 19 14:43:10 <Betelgeuse> I will be in Sochi
+Jan 19 14:43:24 <Betelgeuse> Will be quite late
+Jan 19 14:43:27 <Betelgeuse> in the night
+Jan 19 14:43:28 <NeddySeagoon> well its far enough away so I can make it work
+Jan 19 14:43:54 <Betelgeuse> I think I can make it work though
+Jan 19 14:44:03 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, do you want to propose a new date/time ?
+Jan 19 14:44:03 <Betelgeuse> but how are people for starting earlier?
+Jan 19 14:44:21 <dabbott> fine here
+Jan 19 14:44:36 <SwifT> difficult to say - might be okay here as well, but depends on family business that I don't know yet
+Jan 19 14:45:20 <Betelgeuse> Actually there's FIN-CAN 17UTC
+Jan 19 14:45:21 <dabbott> we can try 17:00 UTC if that helps anyone
+Jan 19 14:45:32 <Betelgeuse> let's keep it as is then
+Jan 19 14:45:34 <NeddySeagoon> I may be able to do earlier but would prefer a different date
+Jan 19 14:45:57 <Betelgeuse> would ahve to be Saturday for earlier
+Jan 19 14:46:21 <Betelgeuse> since we are at winter time it's not that bad actually
+Jan 19 14:46:34 <Betelgeuse> if anything I might be a little late due to the game
+Jan 19 14:46:55 <NeddySeagoon> if I avoid dinner at 17:00, that works
+Jan 19 14:47:16 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: I looked at the schedule and 17UTC does not work
+Jan 19 14:47:28 <Betelgeuse> though we don't have tickets for that came yet
+Jan 19 14:47:46 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, ok. Move the meeting a week then ?
+Jan 19 14:47:55 <SwifT> wfm
+Jan 19 14:48:03 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: wfm
+Jan 19 14:48:07 <Betelgeuse> I will be back in 21st
+Jan 19 14:48:31 <NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - 23 Feb 2014 19:00 UTC ?
+Jan 19 14:48:38 <Betelgeuse> wfm
+Jan 19 14:48:41 <dabbott> fine here
+Jan 19 14:48:45 <NeddySeagoon> wfm
+Jan 19 14:49:06 <SwifT> ok
+Jan 19 14:49:27 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, will you do the log please ?
+Jan 19 14:49:48 <dabbott> yes and the minutes :)
+Jan 19 14:49:53 * dabbott has changed the topic to: Current Bugs ::: http://xrl.us/bkmwgs | Next Meeting ::: Sunday 23 Feb 2014 19:00 UTC | Agenda ::: http://goo.gl/3rGMyf ::: Presidents Report 2013 ::: http://tinyurl.com/kphb6g9
+Jan 19 14:50:01 <NeddySeagoon> There are no motions or emails ...
+Jan 19 14:50:14 <NeddySeagoon> Open Floor ...
+Jan 19 14:51:35 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers please provide your updates to the alias
+Jan 19 14:52:03 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the meeting
+Jan 19 14:52:19 <NeddySeagoon> Thank you Gentemen
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+Feb 23 14:00:38 * NeddySeagoon bangs the virtual gavel to open the Feb 2014 Gentoo Foundation Trustees meeting
+Feb 23 14:00:50 <NeddySeagoon> roll call
+Feb 23 14:01:02 <dabbott> over here o/
+Feb 23 14:01:38 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, quantumsummers
+Feb 23 14:02:07 <NeddySeagoon> Hmm I'm missing one
+Feb 23 14:02:24 <dabbott> Finland won Betelgeuse may be awol
+Feb 23 14:02:30 <NeddySeagoon> hehe
+Feb 23 14:02:31 <dabbott> swift is not here
+Feb 23 14:02:48 <NeddySeagoon> thats the one
+Feb 23 14:02:54 <dabbott> I checked #gentoo-doc also
+Feb 23 14:03:02 <quantumsummers> hey there
+Feb 23 14:03:09 <dabbott> hi quantumsummers
+Feb 23 14:03:11 <quantumsummers> hello
+Feb 23 14:03:13 <quantumsummers> :)
+Feb 23 14:03:22 <NeddySeagoon> Hi quantumsummers we have a quorum lets go
+Feb 23 14:03:57 <NeddySeagoon> My logger is here but after all the DDoS I don't know what its doing
+Feb 23 14:04:01 <quantumsummers> hi NeddySeagoon
+Feb 23 14:04:12 <dabbott> i am logging
+Feb 23 14:04:27 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks dabbott
+Feb 23 14:04:39 <dabbott> I went with calvino.freenode.net its been working
+Feb 23 14:04:44 <NeddySeagoon> 1. Treasurer Report quantumsummers ?
+Feb 23 14:04:51 <quantumsummers> yessir
+Feb 23 14:04:56 <quantumsummers> sending now
+Feb 23 14:05:40 <quantumsummers> sent
+Feb 23 14:05:59 <quantumsummers> dabbott: I am about finished with the 1st and 2nd Q for this fiscal year as well
+Feb 23 14:06:28 <NeddySeagoon> I would like to hold off the vote until we have 3 without yourself quantumsummers
+Feb 23 14:06:33 <quantumsummers> I've finished paypal and ING, just need one more cap1 statement to finish that
+Feb 23 14:06:52 <quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: that's fine, no biggie, at least you can see where we are
+Feb 23 14:07:06 <dabbott> been getting anything from the store?
+Feb 23 14:07:25 <quantumsummers> dabbott: yes, twice a year we get a disbursement from cafepress
+Feb 23 14:07:32 <quantumsummers> usually ~300 or so
+Feb 23 14:07:37 <quantumsummers> buckaroos, that is
+Feb 23 14:07:40 <quantumsummers> (USD)
+Feb 23 14:08:15 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, looks nice and tidy. We will hold the vote in March
+Feb 23 14:08:21 <quantumsummers> ok
+Feb 23 14:08:27 <dabbott> quantumsummers: check ING credits doesnt line up with total
+Feb 23 14:08:35 <quantumsummers> lemme lool
+Feb 23 14:08:38 <quantumsummers> look!
+Feb 23 14:08:38 <NeddySeagoon> No fees to the CPA ?
+Feb 23 14:08:44 <quantumsummers> not from that year
+Feb 23 14:08:52 <NeddySeagoon> ok
+Feb 23 14:09:29 <NeddySeagoon> Is there anything to discuss on the report ?
+Feb 23 14:09:45 <quantumsummers> dabbott: good eye, I didn;t copy correctly, fixed and resending
+Feb 23 14:10:10 <dabbott> ok should be 7263.46 Credits
+Feb 23 14:10:17 <NeddySeagoon> Foundation Activity Tracker. Nothing pending
+Feb 23 14:10:54 <quantumsummers> dabbott: fixed and resent
+Feb 23 14:11:00 <dabbott> NeddySeagoon: looks fine till election
+Feb 23 14:11:13 <NeddySeagoon> yep
+Feb 23 14:11:17 <quantumsummers> I have an actual monthly workflow now to get all our financial info
+Feb 23 14:11:21 <quantumsummers> each month, that is
+Feb 23 14:11:29 <NeddySeagoon> Quarterly Financial Statements - dabbott
+Feb 23 14:11:33 <quantumsummers> so, we can easily do quarterlies or monthlys
+Feb 23 14:11:52 <quantumsummers> dabbott is waiting on my data for the Quarterly
+Feb 23 14:12:05 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, that needs to be captured somewhere
+Feb 23 14:12:32 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers Financial | Legal Status ...
+Feb 23 14:12:32 <dabbott> NeddySeagoon: all here https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Gentoo_Foundation_Finances
+Feb 23 14:12:37 <quantumsummers> I have it all here, I requested a git repo which we have, I was not able to get _robbat2|irssi to ack on the PDF blobs
+Feb 23 14:12:52 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, ok
+Feb 23 14:13:20 <quantumsummers> dabbott: I've bookmarked that page
+Feb 23 14:13:51 <dabbott> I transfered the old stuff best I could
+Feb 23 14:14:00 <quantumsummers> looks good to me
+Feb 23 14:14:26 <dabbott> only missing 2013 and 2014 to be complete :)
+Feb 23 14:14:26 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, as long as the old stuff is kept somewhere
+Feb 23 14:14:44 <quantumsummers> what I have is all the data and statements
+Feb 23 14:14:44 <dabbott> still on guide xml
+Feb 23 14:15:00 <NeddySeagoon> thats fine
+Feb 23 14:15:03 <quantumsummers> nicely paypal has a monthly statement generator now
+Feb 23 14:15:09 <quantumsummers> so I can pdf that too
+Feb 23 14:15:22 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers Financial | Legal Status ...
+Feb 23 14:15:35 <quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: no changes there
+Feb 23 14:15:46 <NeddySeagoon> thats fine
+Feb 23 14:15:54 <NeddySeagoon> CPA ?
+Feb 23 14:16:01 <quantumsummers> nothing to report there either
+Feb 23 14:16:25 <quantumsummers> we will begin the tax prep stuff in July
+Feb 23 14:16:26 <NeddySeagoon> and 501(c)(3) registration status ?
+Feb 23 14:16:41 <quantumsummers> I have not received anything re: status
+Feb 23 14:16:50 <quantumsummers> Need to call or something
+Feb 23 14:17:01 <NeddySeagoon> is the IRS still blocking OSS applications?
+Feb 23 14:17:19 <quantumsummers> I'm not too sure what is happening with the blocks
+Feb 23 14:17:30 <quantumsummers> I read about some new rules in review awhile back
+Feb 23 14:17:48 <quantumsummers> as in they were trying to figure out what to do going forward
+Feb 23 14:18:13 <NeddySeagoon> Ah ok. Well you will be closer to it than me (about 3500 miles closer) :)
+Feb 23 14:18:17 <dabbott> On the foundation mail list some are saying their applications are moving along
+Feb 23 14:18:19 <quantumsummers> :)
+Feb 23 14:18:55 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, I've seen some rejections ... I guess thats movement
+Feb 23 14:19:49 <NeddySeagoon> swift isn't here so we will pass on Gentoo Trademark License Agreement
+Feb 23 14:19:59 <NeddySeagoon> Bugs ...
+Feb 23 14:20:26 <quantumsummers> bug 500450 needs a vote
+Feb 23 14:20:28 <willikins> quantumsummers: https://bugs.gentoo.org/500450 "Use of Gentoo Foundation on official paperwork for a donation of equipment for ZFS development"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; ryao:trustees
+Feb 23 14:21:55 <NeddySeagoon> I'm good with this. The equipment will belong to the foundation in the normal way
+Feb 23 14:22:15 <quantumsummers> That is three "Aye" votes
+Feb 23 14:22:29 <dabbott> Motion: Gentoo Foundation will accept a donation of equipment for ZFS development
+Feb 23 14:22:32 <NeddySeagoon> The foundation can move it around to make best use of it
+Feb 23 14:22:33 <quantumsummers> seconded
+Feb 23 14:22:42 <NeddySeagoon> vote ..
+Feb 23 14:22:43 <dabbott> aye
+Feb 23 14:22:44 <NeddySeagoon> Aye
+Feb 23 14:22:45 <quantumsummers> aye
+Feb 23 14:22:51 <NeddySeagoon> carried
+Feb 23 14:22:59 <quantumsummers> I'll update the bug.\
+Feb 23 14:23:08 <NeddySeagoon> thanks
+Feb 23 14:23:10 <dabbott> done I will update the motion page
+Feb 23 14:23:14 <quantumsummers> dabbott: do you want to handle the paperwork or would like me to?
+Feb 23 14:23:47 <quantumsummers> dabbott: it may just be paperwork on their end
+Feb 23 14:23:52 <dabbott> if you could and do theos at the same time I can see what you did for next time
+Feb 23 14:24:33 <quantumsummers> sure
+Feb 23 14:24:35 <quantumsummers> no prob
+Feb 23 14:24:40 <dabbott> I think they just wanted to say it was donated to the foundation on thier paper work
+Feb 23 14:24:46 <quantumsummers> I'm doing Theo's thing tonight anyway
+Feb 23 14:24:47 <NeddySeagoon> Do we need to review any other bugs today ?
+Feb 23 14:24:58 <quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: not that I can see.
+Feb 23 14:24:58 <dabbott> no
+Feb 23 14:25:10 <NeddySeagoon> Fine ... lets move on
+Feb 23 14:25:11 <quantumsummers> The new dev from Iran bit is a settled issue IMO
+Feb 23 14:25:32 <quantumsummers> looks like I should close some of these old bugs too
+Feb 23 14:25:56 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, yep ... until the embargo laws change
+Feb 23 14:26:05 <NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - 16 Mar 2014 19:00 UTC
+Feb 23 14:26:14 <NeddySeagoon> WFM
+Feb 23 14:26:15 <dabbott> fine here
+Feb 23 14:26:20 <quantumsummers> looks ok
+Feb 23 14:26:37 <quantumsummers> I think now that my kids are more autonomous I should be more available at meetings from now on, Yay!
+Feb 23 14:26:38 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business I have some ...
+Feb 23 14:26:52 <dabbott> do we need to do anything about Bareos
+Feb 23 14:26:53 <quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: proceed sir.
+Feb 23 14:27:02 <NeddySeagoon> more autonomous ... -> into everything ?
+Feb 23 14:27:14 <quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: heh
+Feb 23 14:27:20 <quantumsummers> dabbott: the bareos thing, yes
+Feb 23 14:27:52 <quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: you first
+Feb 23 14:27:58 <NeddySeagoon> Re the email on the backup software and robbat2s proposed response.
+Feb 23 14:28:05 <quantumsummers> ah good
+Feb 23 14:28:10 <quantumsummers> yeah, I agree with Robin on this
+Feb 23 14:28:18 <dabbott> we have RESTRICT=mirror in the ebuild do we need point out to this guy that we aren't distributing the Bareos source at all
+Feb 23 14:28:26 <quantumsummers> we are not mirroring and have restricted that in the ebuild, so that is that
+Feb 23 14:28:32 <quantumsummers> echo ... :D
+Feb 23 14:28:40 <dabbott> im slow :)
+Feb 23 14:28:47 <quantumsummers> I echo'd you!
+Feb 23 14:28:50 <quantumsummers> dabbott: want to do the email there?
+Feb 23 14:28:50 <NeddySeagoon> The resposne looks good be it could do with some flesh on the bones
+Feb 23 14:29:07 <quantumsummers> or NeddySeagoon, feel free to fatten that calf
+Feb 23 14:29:09 <dabbott> ok I will send him an email
+Feb 23 14:29:21 <quantumsummers> it should sound friendly :D
+Feb 23 14:29:58 <dabbott> I will run it by trustees first
+Feb 23 14:30:08 <NeddySeagoon> WE need to explain what these options do and that they are a part of our packaging system, so its just normal pratice
+Feb 23 14:30:14 <dabbott> basicly just what Robin said
+Feb 23 14:30:33 <quantumsummers> sounds reasonable
+Feb 23 14:30:53 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, assume he is not a Gontoo user. He neds to understand the tech bits
+Feb 23 14:31:10 <dabbott> got it little ebuild lesson
+Feb 23 14:31:25 <quantumsummers> dabbott: just send a draft around when you have it :)
+Feb 23 14:31:34 <NeddySeagoon> and he needs to understand the process is not special for this case
+Feb 23 14:31:37 <dabbott> will do
+Feb 23 14:32:23 <NeddySeagoon> yeah, thats a good idea. Circulate to t@g.o
+Feb 23 14:32:43 <NeddySeagoon> That was my other business
+Feb 23 14:33:51 <NeddySeagoon> any more other business ?
+Feb 23 14:33:51 <quantumsummers> ok
+Feb 23 14:33:58 <quantumsummers> not from me (surprised?)
+Feb 23 14:34:03 <NeddySeagoon> hehe
+Feb 23 14:34:29 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, ?
+Feb 23 14:34:38 <dabbott> none here
+Feb 23 14:35:10 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, it looks like you have picked up the Responsibilities too
+Feb 23 14:35:15 <dabbott> I will do the log, minutes and update the motions page
+Feb 23 14:35:23 <NeddySeagoon> thanks
+Feb 23 14:35:32 <dabbott> np I do it all the same time
+Feb 23 14:35:32 <NeddySeagoon> Open Floor ...
+Feb 23 14:36:11 <jmbsvicetto> NeddySeagoon: I don't have any proposal yet, but I'm going to submit a proposal about the releng build box
+Feb 23 14:36:27 <NeddySeagoon> jmbsvicetto, Sure
+Feb 23 14:36:33 <quantumsummers> sounds good jmbsvicetto, looking forward to reading it
+Feb 23 14:37:03 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the meeting
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+Mar 16 14:59:58 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to bring the 16 March 2014 trustees meeting to order
+Mar 16 15:00:07 <NeddySeagoon> Roll call ...
+Mar 16 15:00:16 * NeddySeagoon is here
+Mar 16 15:00:17 <SwifT> i'm here
+Mar 16 15:00:18 <dabbott> here o/
+Mar 16 15:00:41 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, quantumsummers|c ?
+Mar 16 15:02:52 <NeddySeagoon> Hmm maybe quantumsummers|c forgot to fix his clocks but Betelgeuse isn't on DST yet, I don't think
+Mar 16 15:03:09 <quantumsummers|c> hello
+Mar 16 15:03:20 <NeddySeagoon> lets give them another min or two
+Mar 16 15:03:36 <NeddySeagoon> Hi quantumsummers|c
+Mar 16 15:03:55 <NeddySeagoon> OK, we have 4 out of 5, lets go
+Mar 16 15:04:40 <NeddySeagoon> Logging? dabbott you normally do this ?
+Mar 16 15:04:51 <dabbott> yes got it
+Mar 16 15:05:40 <NeddySeagoon> Old Business ... Treasurer Report Con we vole on this now ?
+Mar 16 15:06:18 <quantumsummers|c> anyone find any errors?
+Mar 16 15:06:29 <dabbott> r1 looks fine to me
+Mar 16 15:06:30 <quantumsummers|c> I think we got them all fixed at the last meeting
+Mar 16 15:06:34 <quantumsummers|c> cool
+Mar 16 15:06:49 <quantumsummers|c> Motion to approve Treas. Report
+Mar 16 15:06:52 <NeddySeagoon> Not fom we ... but I didn't spot the last one either :(
+Mar 16 15:07:06 <NeddySeagoon> Seconded vote ...
+Mar 16 15:07:07 * SwifT is in favor
+Mar 16 15:07:09 <NeddySeagoon> Aye
+Mar 16 15:07:20 <dabbott> yes
+Mar 16 15:07:27 <quantumsummers|c> aye
+Mar 16 15:07:33 <NeddySeagoon> Carried
+Mar 16 15:08:06 <NeddySeagoon> Foundation Activity Tracker - nothing to do right now
+Mar 16 15:08:08 <dabbott> also I would like to put a summary in this months GMN for the trustees
+Mar 16 15:08:17 <NeddySeagoon> sure
+Mar 16 15:08:19 <dabbott> of the finances
+Mar 16 15:08:41 <quantumsummers|c> dabbott: what is the date
+Mar 16 15:08:45 <quantumsummers|c> to publish
+Mar 16 15:08:49 <dabbott> 31
+Mar 16 15:08:58 <quantumsummers|c> ok
+Mar 16 15:09:11 <dabbott> thanks quantumsummers|c :)
+Mar 16 15:09:17 <quantumsummers|c> dabbott: are you writing this?
+Mar 16 15:09:23 <quantumsummers|c> or would you like me ot
+Mar 16 15:09:25 <quantumsummers|c> to
+Mar 16 15:09:37 <dabbott> I can but you may do a better job tbh
+Mar 16 15:09:51 <NeddySeagoon> Publish to Dec 31 2013 as 1st quarter 2014 won't be complete
+Mar 16 15:10:10 <quantumsummers|c> dabbott: tell you what, bullet list your points and shoot it to me so I know what you have in mind
+Mar 16 15:10:28 <dabbott> ok
+Mar 16 15:10:49 <quantumsummers|c> we have Q1, Q2
+Mar 16 15:11:21 <dabbott> UI just wanted to say we were doing fine, where we get our money from, what we spend it on, general stuff
+Mar 16 15:11:22 <quantumsummers|c> for our fiscal year, (which I hate, the mid-year is annoying)
+Mar 16 15:11:29 <quantumsummers|c> dabbott: gotcha
+Mar 16 15:11:30 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, Quarterly Financial Statements anything to contribute this month ?
+Mar 16 15:11:46 <quantumsummers|c> I could talk about what we have done over the years as well, in broad strokes
+Mar 16 15:11:51 <dabbott> we still need to complete 2013 2014
+Mar 16 15:11:58 <quantumsummers|c> complete?
+Mar 16 15:12:07 <quantumsummers|c> oh, the FY
+Mar 16 15:12:11 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, it would be worth saying how to apply for funding too
+Mar 16 15:12:51 <quantumsummers|c> SwifT: [unrelated] we should include the actual reg. data for our trademarks on the page
+Mar 16 15:13:15 <quantumsummers|c> I am outta order here
+Mar 16 15:13:47 <SwifT> sure
+Mar 16 15:13:50 * NeddySeagoon taps quantumsummers|c on the knucles with the virtual gavel
+Mar 16 15:14:30 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott ween can you add 2013 update ?
+Mar 16 15:15:00 <NeddySeagoon> when? *
+Mar 16 15:15:44 <dabbott> one second, quantumsummers|c something like this https://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/finances/2010-treasurer-report.xml
+Mar 16 15:16:14 <quantumsummers|c> dabbott: ok, I see
+Mar 16 15:16:27 <dabbott> for the 2013 report I will have to find it, quantumsummers|c may be able to do it for me and also the 2014
+Mar 16 15:17:02 <dabbott> I just did the old ones converted it from gentoo.org
+Mar 16 15:17:23 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, it would be good to have current up to date info in the GMN
+Mar 16 15:17:34 <quantumsummers|c> yeah, I need to take a look at whats there, and learn how to edit our wiki
+Mar 16 15:18:02 <quantumsummers|c> page wiki/Foundation:Gentoo_Foundation_Finances_2010 is missing info for Q4
+Mar 16 15:18:31 <dabbott> yea thats when Josh left
+Mar 16 15:18:53 <quantumsummers|c> I'll take a look
+Mar 16 15:18:53 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers anything on Financial | Legal Status Certified Public Accountant 501(c)(3) registration status ?
+Mar 16 15:18:56 <dabbott> I think it was missing on the main site also
+Mar 16 15:19:01 <quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: nothing to report
+Mar 16 15:19:07 <quantumsummers|c> well one thing
+Mar 16 15:19:30 <quantumsummers|c> I received a huge set of documents from our Trademark people, with our entire history with them
+Mar 16 15:19:44 <quantumsummers|c> all the official TM docs, etc
+Mar 16 15:20:02 <quantumsummers|c> I guess I'll stick that in my safe deposit box
+Mar 16 15:20:34 <quantumsummers|c> thats it
+Mar 16 15:20:56 <NeddySeagoon> Do we need to have them scanned and circulated?
+Mar 16 15:21:25 <SwifT> i'd like to look at them if you don't mind
+Mar 16 15:21:32 <quantumsummers|c> it came with a CD.
+Mar 16 15:21:35 <NeddySeagoon> Should they be stored by Wayne Chew ... our man in NM?
+Mar 16 15:21:49 <quantumsummers|c> there are several hundred pages here
+Mar 16 15:22:20 <NeddySeagoon> Can you host the CD. I'm curious too?
+Mar 16 15:22:33 <quantumsummers|c> I would say no to W. Chew, I can keep them at my bank
+Mar 16 15:22:44 <quantumsummers|c> I'll image the cd, we can pass that around
+Mar 16 15:22:53 <quantumsummers|c> probably best to encrypt it
+Mar 16 15:23:26 <NeddySeagoon> paper records are a PITA. Is the trademark stuff secret ?
+Mar 16 15:24:40 <quantumsummers|c> only the client/attorney correspondence
+Mar 16 15:24:48 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, I'm thinking of the 'bus factor' and getting the docs out of your bank
+Mar 16 15:25:55 <quantumsummers|c> I have all that taken care of in the case of my death, documentation, estate manger, etc.
+Mar 16 15:26:02 <quantumsummers|c> but whatever you guys want to do
+Mar 16 15:26:16 <quantumsummers|c> Chew may not be the best choice of keepers
+Mar 16 15:26:32 <quantumsummers|c> hard to get ahold of
+Mar 16 15:27:10 <NeddySeagoon> Wayne will want a storage fee. If everything is taken care of, as long as the papers are safe. I'w ok
+Mar 16 15:28:21 <dabbott> quantumsummers|c: Just make some copies and send it aroude for backup / review sounds good to me
+Mar 16 15:28:29 <quantumsummers|c> actually I would really prefer to somehow permanently engage Fenwick and West to manage this, and send their stuff back to them
+Mar 16 15:28:59 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, ask them for a quote
+Mar 16 15:28:59 <quantumsummers|c> I will send the disk image tonight
+Mar 16 15:29:03 <quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: I will
+Mar 16 15:29:28 <quantumsummers|c> couldnt be that bad, we only need to do things every 5 or 10 years
+Mar 16 15:30:03 <NeddySeagoon> yep ... if we don't ask we will never know.
+Mar 16 15:30:37 <NeddySeagoon> What do you mean "send the disk image" ?
+Mar 16 15:30:43 <quantumsummers|c> I'll email on Monday
+Mar 16 15:30:57 <quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: dunno, prob email a link to DL from my servers
+Mar 16 15:31:04 <quantumsummers|c> depends on how large it is
+Mar 16 15:31:10 <NeddySeagoon> That works for me
+Mar 16 15:31:19 <quantumsummers|c> or just gpg->email
+Mar 16 15:31:30 <quantumsummers|c> either way, it will be encrypted
+Mar 16 15:31:35 <NeddySeagoon> heh ... ok
+Mar 16 15:31:54 <quantumsummers|c> hate to do this, but I need to bug outta here to deal with kids.
+Mar 16 15:32:01 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Gentoo Trademark License Agreement
+Mar 16 15:32:03 <quantumsummers|c> hard to get more than 30 misn
+Mar 16 15:32:07 <quantumsummers|c> *mins
+Mar 16 15:32:08 <NeddySeagoon> thanks quantumsummers|c
+Mar 16 15:32:24 <quantumsummers|c> thanks
+Mar 16 15:32:30 <SwifT> not much progress there - I will engage the discussion list of gentoo-ev for some feedback on the document
+Mar 16 15:33:02 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, how good is your German?
+Mar 16 15:33:15 <SwifT> as good as translate.google.com :p
+Mar 16 15:33:34 <SwifT> I hope that, if I ask in English, they'll reply in English ;)
+Mar 16 15:33:48 <NeddySeagoon> hehe ... thats why I've not joined the list :)
+Mar 16 15:34:26 <NeddySeagoon> good luck
+Mar 16 15:34:29 <SwifT> thx
+Mar 16 15:35:10 <NeddySeagoon> Bugs ...
+Mar 16 15:35:31 <NeddySeagoon> Bug 500450
+Mar 16 15:35:32 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/500450 "Use of Gentoo Foundation on official paperwork for a donation of equipment for ZFS development"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; ryao:trustees
+Mar 16 15:35:48 <NeddySeagoon> This seems to have stalled
+Mar 16 15:36:24 <NeddySeagoon> ping ryao
+Mar 16 15:39:07 <NeddySeagoon> Any other bugs we need to review today ?
+Mar 16 15:39:44 <dabbott> I don't see any
+Mar 16 15:40:07 <NeddySeagoon> New Business ... there in none
+Mar 16 15:40:39 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business ...
+Mar 16 15:40:45 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, ?
+Mar 16 15:40:59 <dabbott> none here
+Mar 16 15:41:14 <NeddySeagoon> none from me either
+Mar 16 15:41:19 <SwifT> none here either
+Mar 16 15:41:37 <SwifT> i'll be back active for gentoo from next week, so hopefully more the next meeting ;)
+Mar 16 15:41:46 <NeddySeagoon> Responsibilities ... that looks like you dabbott
+Mar 16 15:42:00 <dabbott> Yes I got it NP :)
+Mar 16 15:42:08 <NeddySeagoon> Open Floor ...
+Mar 16 15:43:23 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the meeting
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+May 18 14:59:00 * quantumsummers starts the meeting with roll call
+May 18 14:59:06 <dabbott> here
+May 18 14:59:08 <SwifT> I'm here
+May 18 14:59:17 <quantumsummers> Neddyseagoon sends his regrets.
+May 18 14:59:27 <quantumsummers> is Betelgeuse around?
+May 18 14:59:42 <quantumsummers> well we have a quorum, so let's start
+May 18 14:59:49 <dabbott> he was an hour ago
+May 18 14:59:50 <quantumsummers> who is logging, dabbott ?
+May 18 14:59:55 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: yes
+May 18 14:59:56 <dabbott> yep got it
+May 18 15:00:01 <quantumsummers> dabbott: thanks
+May 18 15:00:04 <quantumsummers> Hello Betelgeuse
+May 18 15:00:19 <quantumsummers> ok, so Old Business
+May 18 15:00:26 <quantumsummers> Me first it appears
+May 18 15:00:32 <quantumsummers> Let's see
+May 18 15:00:50 <quantumsummers> Well we are prepared for our upcoming end of the fiscal year
+May 18 15:00:56 <quantumsummers> our finances are strong
+May 18 15:00:59 <quantumsummers> we have no debts
+May 18 15:01:11 <quantumsummers> That is all the news I have there
+May 18 15:01:15 <quantumsummers> questions/
+May 18 15:01:16 <quantumsummers> ?
+May 18 15:01:30 <quantumsummers> ok
+May 18 15:01:34 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: And everything with the US gov ok?
+May 18 15:01:36 <dabbott> did the cpa want any money
+May 18 15:01:37 <quantumsummers> SwifT: The trademark bit
+May 18 15:01:52 <SwifT> ok
+May 18 15:01:55 <quantumsummers> dabbott: not yet, I am certain they will invoice seprately for this year
+May 18 15:02:07 <SwifT> I sent out a mail to the gentoo e.v. mailinglist to suggest cooperation on the trademark license document
+May 18 15:02:21 <SwifT> that was about one month ago, but I didn't receive any feedback yet
+May 18 15:02:37 <SwifT> I know a3li is interested but he has some (free) time issues
+May 18 15:03:03 <quantumsummers> ok. they are usually not super quick to have internal discussions
+May 18 15:03:32 <SwifT> it's not extremely urgent per se, but it would be nice to have the document updated between now and the summer or so
+May 18 15:04:05 <SwifT> that's it from me for this topic
+May 18 15:04:21 <quantumsummers> related, I plan to talk to our previous trademark attorneys this coming week to discuss a retainer. It should be relatively inexpensive given that the work is minimal
+May 18 15:04:34 <quantumsummers> Ok, any questions for SwifT ?
+May 18 15:04:59 <dabbott> do you want me to keep the topic on the agenda for next month?
+May 18 15:05:08 <SwifT> yes please
+May 18 15:05:18 <quantumsummers> dabbott: thanks, good idea
+May 18 15:05:51 <quantumsummers> Ok, looking at our bugs, I don't see anything new there
+May 18 15:06:01 <dabbott> with the agenda now on the wiki you can edit the agenda when you want to, make it easy
+May 18 15:06:13 <quantumsummers> re: bug 500450
+May 18 15:06:15 <willikins> quantumsummers: https://bugs.gentoo.org/500450 "Use of Gentoo Foundation on official paperwork for a donation of equipment for ZFS development"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; ryao:trustees
+May 18 15:06:25 <quantumsummers> I have not heard anything back on that since February
+May 18 15:06:41 <quantumsummers> I'll add a new comment
+May 18 15:07:49 <quantumsummers> anyone have any bugs stuff to discuss?
+May 18 15:07:55 <SwifT> nope
+May 18 15:08:02 <dabbott> none here
+May 18 15:08:13 <quantumsummers> Betelgeuse ?
+May 18 15:08:17 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: nope
+May 18 15:08:21 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: robbat2 did
+May 18 15:08:23 <Betelgeuse> for open floor
+May 18 15:08:29 <quantumsummers> ok. moving right along
+May 18 15:08:30 <robbat2> yeah, i have open floor
+May 18 15:08:33 <robbat2> after your new business
+May 18 15:08:39 <quantumsummers> robbat2: ok, we'll be there shortly
+May 18 15:08:55 <quantumsummers> So, we have a single membership app from a developer Mikle Kolyada (zlogene)
+May 18 15:09:09 <quantumsummers> all in favor of his membership application state "aye"
+May 18 15:09:13 <dabbott> aye
+May 18 15:09:16 <quantumsummers> those opposed "nay"
+May 18 15:09:17 <SwifT> aye
+May 18 15:09:27 <quantumsummers> Betelgeuse ?
+May 18 15:09:37 * quantumsummers says aye
+May 18 15:09:41 <Betelgeuse> aye
+May 18 15:09:44 <quantumsummers> the aye's have it
+May 18 15:09:47 <dabbott> I added him to the master member list
+May 18 15:09:55 <quantumsummers> Welcome zlogene to Foundation membership
+May 18 15:09:57 <quantumsummers> thanks dabbott
+May 18 15:10:03 <dabbott> I will send him an email
+May 18 15:10:10 <quantumsummers> dabbott: you are on the ball, thanks
+May 18 15:10:28 <quantumsummers> ok, date of next meeting 15 June 2014 19:00 UTC
+May 18 15:10:31 <quantumsummers> works for me
+May 18 15:10:38 <dabbott> fine here
+May 18 15:10:49 <quantumsummers> same bat time and bat channel
+May 18 15:10:55 <Betelgeuse> who handles the Gentoo calendar?
+May 18 15:11:05 <quantumsummers> Betelgeuse: do we have a calendar proper?
+May 18 15:11:18 <quantumsummers> in other words, I have no idea
+May 18 15:11:18 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: there's an entry in the Gentoo Google calendar
+May 18 15:11:22 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: it's for 18UTC
+May 18 15:11:27 <Betelgeuse> let me see if I can modify it
+May 18 15:11:29 <quantumsummers> that is wrong!!
+May 18 15:11:32 <quantumsummers> :D
+May 18 15:11:33 <quantumsummers> please do
+May 18 15:11:41 <Betelgeuse> I do not have access :(
+May 18 15:11:48 <quantumsummers> all meetings are always 1900 UTC since forever
+May 18 15:11:48 <Betelgeuse> The entry is created by comprookie2000@gmail.com
+May 18 15:11:53 <quantumsummers> that is dabbott
+May 18 15:12:01 <dabbott> ping vapier I think its his calender
+May 18 15:12:03 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: the timezone is probably wrong
+May 18 15:12:08 <quantumsummers> yeah
+May 18 15:12:16 <quantumsummers> ok, that should be an easy thing to fix up
+May 18 15:12:23 <quantumsummers> so, lets see ...
+May 18 15:12:27 <robbat2> you can create events with the UTC timezone, so it shifts automatically
+May 18 15:12:28 <dabbott> thats me let me se if I can fixer
+May 18 15:12:47 <quantumsummers> Thanks dabbott Any other business?
+May 18 15:12:51 <Betelgeuse> dabbott: use Iceland Reykjavik
+May 18 15:12:58 <quantumsummers> Any other business:
+May 18 15:13:02 <quantumsummers> I have one item
+May 18 15:13:04 <robbat2> Betelgeuse, there is a real UTC timezone actually
+May 18 15:13:11 <Betelgeuse> robbat2: ok, good
+May 18 15:13:19 <quantumsummers> yes, its called "UTC" :D
+May 18 15:13:24 <robbat2> in gcal i mean
+May 18 15:13:34 <Betelgeuse> robbat2: they didn't always have it
+May 18 15:13:48 <quantumsummers> reason does prevail from time to time
+May 18 15:13:53 <robbat2> anyway, quantumsummers, your AoB
+May 18 15:13:54 <quantumsummers> glad they added it
+May 18 15:13:56 <quantumsummers> yes
+May 18 15:14:22 <quantumsummers> so, I am interested in doing a teespring campaign for Gentoo, specifically to put a dent in some soon-to-be-proposed infra spending
+May 18 15:14:34 <quantumsummers> dabbott: I am hoping I can enlist PR to assist
+May 18 15:14:35 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: what'a teespring?
+May 18 15:14:40 <quantumsummers> I see two paths
+May 18 15:14:49 <quantumsummers> Betelgeuse: lmgtfy
+May 18 15:14:57 <quantumsummers> its a t-shirt thing
+May 18 15:15:12 <quantumsummers> pretty good deal, I am happy with the quality of the shirts I have gotten from them
+May 18 15:15:33 <quantumsummers> basically, you set a minimim amount to sell, then sell as many as possible
+May 18 15:15:40 <quantumsummers> I think the abs min is 50
+May 18 15:15:51 <quantumsummers> Django just did one and sold like 500 shirts
+May 18 15:16:03 <quantumsummers> I believe they netted $10 a shirt
+May 18 15:16:12 <quantumsummers> teespring handles all shipping and handling
+May 18 15:16:25 <dabbott> sounds good, we need a design
+May 18 15:16:28 <quantumsummers> it's pretty easy, all via a web thing
+May 18 15:16:35 <quantumsummers> dabbott: that is what I want to talk with PR about
+May 18 15:16:42 <quantumsummers> also re: two paths
+May 18 15:17:01 <quantumsummers> we could use an existing logo deal or something like the if it moved compile it graphic
+May 18 15:17:04 <quantumsummers> OR
+May 18 15:17:08 <quantumsummers> we could have a design contest
+May 18 15:17:27 <quantumsummers> Since I do not know the infra timeline at the moment, I cannot say if we have time to do the contest
+May 18 15:17:36 <dabbott> The last contest was a flop
+May 18 15:17:37 <robbat2> that's actually my AoB ;-)
+May 18 15:17:39 <quantumsummers> I can easily get someone to assist with a design
+May 18 15:17:46 <dabbott> noone was interested
+May 18 15:17:46 <quantumsummers> robbat2: I thought that might be the case
+May 18 15:17:52 <Betelgeuse> It doesn't hurt to run one.
+May 18 15:18:05 <quantumsummers> Betelgeuse: if it wastes time, it would hurt
+May 18 15:18:18 <quantumsummers> that said, it doesn't have to be anything too fancy
+May 18 15:18:21 <SwifT> or work with a "This is our current suggested design - if you think you can do better, show us!"
+May 18 15:18:26 <quantumsummers> I have a couple ideas
+May 18 15:18:29 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: Since time is limited you can have your contact work at th same time
+May 18 15:18:31 <quantumsummers> SwifT: I like that
+May 18 15:18:39 <quantumsummers> ok, seems reasonable
+May 18 15:18:49 <quantumsummers> I'll start the ball rolling tomorrow on that
+May 18 15:18:59 <robbat2> i don't think there will be time to run it entirely beforehand, but no reason not to run the projects concurrently
+May 18 15:19:05 <quantumsummers> perhaps we could leverage our newish social media power to get more involved
+May 18 15:19:13 <quantumsummers> robbat2: ok, sounds good.
+May 18 15:19:17 <SwifT> but tbh, if infra needs financial support for the services (which I'm all in favor for - I want planet.g.o back and guaranteed backups of everything ;) i'm sure we can also find direct donations for that as well (simultaneously with whatever we're launching)
+May 18 15:19:18 <quantumsummers> that is it for my AoB
+May 18 15:19:22 <quantumsummers> any other AoB?
+May 18 15:19:50 <quantumsummers> what happened to planet?
+May 18 15:20:08 <SwifT> server down according to infra-status.g.o
+May 18 15:20:19 <quantumsummers> SwifT: looks up to me
+May 18 15:20:34 <quantumsummers> anyway, lets get robbat2 in here as he has a hungry infant likely nearby
+May 18 15:20:37 <SwifT> ah cool... it's infra-status.g.o that's down now ;)
+May 18 15:20:46 <SwifT> yes
+May 18 15:20:49 <quantumsummers> robbat2: please, you have hte floor
+May 18 15:20:55 <robbat2> the sponsor of that box moved DC and lost our box for a while, due to bad tracking of ownership; then lost the box again due to paperwork falling through the cracks
+May 18 15:21:00 <robbat2> hi
+May 18 15:21:06 <robbat2> fed baby is sleeping on my chest now
+May 18 15:21:12 <quantumsummers> that is the best
+May 18 15:21:17 <dabbott> we need pictures :)
+May 18 15:21:20 <quantumsummers> congrats btw
+May 18 15:21:21 <SwifT> =)
+May 18 15:21:36 <quantumsummers> huge deal, that having a baby thing
+May 18 15:21:44 <Betelgeuse> robbat2: congrats!
+May 18 15:21:46 * SwifT is imagining robbat2 with his baby on his chest, with a hot laptop on that baby
+May 18 15:21:48 <quantumsummers> my littlest just turned 1 the other day
+May 18 15:21:54 <quantumsummers> heh
+May 18 15:22:18 <SwifT> but enough diaper-talk, let's hear it ;)
+May 18 15:22:20 <dabbott> He going to get pretty good typing with one hand
+May 18 15:22:33 <quantumsummers> as if he isn't already
+May 18 15:22:39 * antarus snickers softly
+May 18 15:22:51 <quantumsummers> I bet he types faster with his eye lashes than I do with all my fingas
+May 18 15:23:04 <dabbott> antarus: your next :D
+May 18 15:23:08 <quantumsummers> back to the matter at hand
+May 18 15:23:14 <quantumsummers> robbat2: please continue
+May 18 15:23:33 <robbat2> one of our large older sponsors, TMG/Hyves
+May 18 15:23:38 <robbat2> is closing up shop
+May 18 15:23:53 <robbat2> we have a hard deadline of the end of August to move services away
+May 18 15:24:25 <quantumsummers> is that doable?
+May 18 15:24:36 <robbat2> they presently host 6 physical servers, that host Bugzilla & Wiki, as well as the databases for those (all fully redundant)
+May 18 15:25:05 <quantumsummers> ouch, that is a lot to loose
+May 18 15:25:33 <robbat2> i think after OSL, they are the 2nd or 3rd largest sponsor we have
+May 18 15:25:59 <robbat2> i do want to put out a thank you announcement about them
+May 18 15:26:17 <quantumsummers> dabbott: PR should have some involvement, no?
+May 18 15:26:19 <robbat2> and therein, start a campaign to find more sponsors in the EU
+May 18 15:26:26 <quantumsummers> sounds good
+May 18 15:26:28 <quantumsummers> time line?
+May 18 15:26:34 <SwifT> i'm fully in favor of that
+May 18 15:26:45 <robbat2> i want sponsors twofold:
+May 18 15:27:33 <robbat2> 1. something like OSL, but in the EU; full service colo. we own the hardware, they provide bw/power/rack/hands
+May 18 15:27:52 <robbat2> 2. either one new large sponsor, or 3+ smaller sponsors
+May 18 15:28:38 <robbat2> the reason behind #1 is more complex than just bugs/wiki
+May 18 15:28:46 <quantumsummers> robbat2: does #1 exist?
+May 18 15:28:52 <robbat2> one of our oldest boxes presently is dev.g.o
+May 18 15:28:57 <robbat2> which is pretty critical to all devs
+May 18 15:29:13 <robbat2> for a long time, EU devs have also complained that it's high latency for them to reach it
+May 18 15:29:45 <robbat2> so I want to split out email from dev.g.o, and have dev-us.g.o and dev-eu.g.o as smaller systems for devs in each region
+May 18 15:29:54 <quantumsummers> sounds just fine
+May 18 15:30:06 <robbat2> i don't know if #1 exists yet
+May 18 15:30:22 <quantumsummers> I assume they would be more or less mirrors of eachother, i.e. same stuff on each in case one fails or someone is travelling
+May 18 15:30:24 <robbat2> nothing in a quick look, but maybe the PR boost will help find it
+May 18 15:30:36 <Betelgeuse> robbat2: With one operator my ipv6 traffice used to bounce over the atlantic form Finland to France
+May 18 15:30:37 <quantumsummers> robbat2: ok sounds good
+May 18 15:30:48 <robbat2> devs will have accounts on both, and we can offer unison maybe, but normally not mirrored
+May 18 15:30:56 <quantumsummers> robbat2: ok
+May 18 15:31:33 <quantumsummers> I guess the trick will be with distfiles, etc hosted in devspaces
+May 18 15:31:46 <robbat2> therein I want to get projects hosting off the ground
+May 18 15:32:11 <robbat2> but we'll deal with that when we come to it
+May 18 15:32:17 <quantumsummers> ok
+May 18 15:32:26 <robbat2> so timelines, then budget
+May 18 15:32:57 <robbat2> i want to get the announcement before the end of this week
+May 18 15:33:10 * antarus has a draft for that floating around
+May 18 15:33:24 <robbat2> with hope of having at least one new sponsor by end of may, and another by late june
+May 18 15:33:40 <dabbott> I will put it on this months GMN
+May 18 15:33:51 <antarus> dabbott: when is the GMN publish deadline?
+May 18 15:34:04 <dabbott> 25th about
+May 18 15:34:12 <antarus> ok
+May 18 15:34:17 <robbat2> and migrating bugs+wiki by end of july, to leave august for slack room
+May 18 15:34:21 <dabbott> before the first for sure
+May 18 15:34:47 <robbat2> budget:
+May 18 15:35:53 <robbat2> if we get an EU OSL, i think that I can get a good server (or maybe two), plus PDU, switches, cabling, shipping, for $10k USD
+May 18 15:36:38 <quantumsummers> robbat2: ok, I can get behind that
+May 18 15:36:49 <antarus> we could also conceivably...pay for hosting?
+May 18 15:37:28 <quantumsummers> antarus: for a colo? I currently pay ~$800 a month for a half rack in a colo and the space isn't the big part of that, it's power and be
+May 18 15:37:29 <robbat2> we'd be looking for probably a quarter rack (or an 1/8th to start, and space to grow), with 5A+ of power; bandwidth: 5-10mbit commit, burstable to 25-50mbit
+May 18 15:37:31 <quantumsummers> bw
+May 18 15:38:11 <Betelgeuse> doesn't hetzner already sponsor something?
+May 18 15:38:16 <antarus> quantumsummers: we don't need a half rack though
+May 18 15:38:19 <Betelgeuse> We could at least ask for discounted rates
+May 18 15:38:30 <antarus> Betelgeuse: leaseweb is also an existing sponsor
+May 18 15:38:39 <antarus> and their stuff is seemingly affordable
+May 18 15:38:45 <robbat2> the remote hands are actually a larger concern than the physical space/power/bw
+May 18 15:38:51 <robbat2> OSL's admins do a lot for us
+May 18 15:38:51 <antarus> depending on how much gear we have to stuff in it
+May 18 15:38:51 <quantumsummers> robbat2: do you have a hard deadline to identify a facility?
+May 18 15:39:16 <antarus> yeah, none of us can drive to amsterdam, heh.
+May 18 15:39:18 <Betelgeuse> antarus: I have no idea of price level but here's for hetzner http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/racks
+May 18 15:39:53 <dabbott> we may have to pay on of our devs to visit the servers @ times
+May 18 15:40:02 <Betelgeuse> Too bad asking around in Finland is somewhat useless
+May 18 15:40:23 <quantumsummers> robbat2: are you targetting any specific country?
+May 18 15:40:28 <Betelgeuse> unless we want it out of the way routing wise
+May 18 15:40:31 <robbat2> hetzner's racks are in Nuremberg or Falkenstein
+May 18 15:40:47 <robbat2> not amsterdam
+May 18 15:40:53 <robbat2> leaseweb is Amsterdam
+May 18 15:41:00 <quantumsummers> GB, FRA?
+May 18 15:41:18 <robbat2> mainland europe preferred, near at least two devs
+May 18 15:41:24 <robbat2> that we can invoke for help if needed
+May 18 15:41:35 <dabbott> yep
+May 18 15:41:48 <quantumsummers> so Germany would be the best, with the highest concentration of devs
+May 18 15:42:28 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: well according to the map many Germans are on the western border
+May 18 15:42:41 <robbat2> Dusseldorf or Zurich have the best concentrations
+May 18 15:42:59 <quantumsummers> Zurich has high quality data lines apparently
+May 18 15:43:10 <robbat2> prague is also promising
+May 18 15:43:11 * antarus blinks
+May 18 15:43:20 <antarus> 28.56 a kw/h
+May 18 15:43:22 <antarus> damn germans
+May 18 15:43:27 <robbat2> but it will really depend wherever we're offered
+May 18 15:43:29 <quantumsummers> yeah, noticed that too
+May 18 15:44:09 <Betelgeuse> antarus: so expensive or cheap in your opinion? Can't say because it's expensive in comparison to Finland.
+May 18 15:45:53 <quantumsummers> I pay $ 0.15 / kWh
+May 18 15:46:02 <quantumsummers> which is fairly cheap
+May 18 15:46:11 <quantumsummers> with 100% ToS
+May 18 15:46:58 <robbat2> assuming 600W, the heztner rate is EUR125/mo
+May 18 15:47:10 <robbat2> on top of the base rack cost
+May 18 15:48:22 <quantumsummers> we should be able to afford that, and perhaps Hetzner would offer some additional support
+May 18 15:48:39 <robbat2> after the dust on this is settled; later this year we should replace dev.g.o, and possibly the old atoms
+May 18 15:48:50 <robbat2> so this will be a big capex year in infra
+May 18 15:48:56 <robbat2> that's all for me
+May 18 15:48:59 <robbat2> baby is squirming again
+May 18 15:49:00 <quantumsummers> robbat2: thanks!
+May 18 15:49:05 <Betelgeuse> thanks
+May 18 15:49:14 <quantumsummers> ok, so that is a good bit to think about.
+May 18 15:49:22 <robbat2> antarus, can you shoot that draft to infra@ and i'll pass on to trustees@+pr@
+May 18 15:49:34 <antarus> yeah I need to finish it first ;p
+May 18 15:49:41 <antarus> will get that done by CoB today
+May 18 15:49:43 <quantumsummers> antarus: stop slacking :P
+May 18 15:49:47 <antarus> I need to consume the vapors
+May 18 15:49:50 <quantumsummers> ok, that is just great
+May 18 15:49:57 <robbat2> CoB on a non-business day ;-)
+May 18 15:50:07 <antarus> robbat2: intentionally left vague
+May 18 15:50:09 <antarus> ;p
+May 18 15:50:14 <quantumsummers> Once we see the proposal and evaluate it, we shall hold a vote via email
+May 18 15:50:28 <quantumsummers> let's try to turn this around quickly
+May 18 15:50:30 <dabbott> sounds good
+May 18 15:50:39 <quantumsummers> ok, anyone else for Open Floor?
+May 18 15:50:49 <quantumsummers> going once
+May 18 15:51:01 <quantumsummers> going twice
+May 18 15:51:16 <quantumsummers> three times a lady
+May 18 15:51:30 <quantumsummers> ok. The floor is closed.
+May 18 15:51:42 <quantumsummers> Thanks everyone for attending this month's meeting of the board
+May 18 15:51:54 * quantumsummers closes the meeting with the gavel bang
+May 18 15:51:58 <quantumsummers> **bang**
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+Jun 15 14:59:41 <NeddySeagoon> Roll Call
+Jun 15 14:59:47 <dabbott> here
+Jun 15 14:59:49 <Betelgeuse> SwifT: lol
+Jun 15 14:59:50 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to quantumsummers2
+Jun 15 14:59:51 <SwifT> here
+Jun 15 14:59:51 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: here
+Jun 15 14:59:51 * NeddySeagoon is here
+Jun 15 15:00:05 <NeddySeagoon> Thats 4
+Jun 15 15:00:08 <quantumsummers2> hello folks
+Jun 15 15:00:20 <dabbott> hi quantumsummers
+Jun 15 15:00:23 <quantumsummers2> I am not authd
+Jun 15 15:00:33 <NeddySeagoon> 5 out of 5 on Fathers day too
+Jun 15 15:00:56 <quantumsummers2> I'm at a FAM functio. on my phone
+Jun 15 15:01:20 <NeddySeagoon> Logging ? I have no idea if my logger is still running
+Jun 15 15:01:26 <dabbott> I got it
+Jun 15 15:01:34 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks
+Jun 15 15:01:55 <NeddySeagoon> Item 1. Infra Funding (bugzilla, wiki, dev.g.o)
+Jun 15 15:02:36 <dabbott> still getting info together quantumsummers has been working on it with infra
+Jun 15 15:02:52 <NeddySeagoon> OK moving on ...
+Jun 15 15:02:58 <quantumsummers2> yes
+Jun 15 15:03:04 <NeddySeagoon> Initiate Trustee Election
+Jun 15 15:03:12 <dabbott> done
+Jun 15 15:03:25 <Betelgeuse> for infra are we on top of things for the dl of the old servers going away?
+Jun 15 15:03:28 <NeddySeagoon> Looks OK but we need the results before 16 Aug
+Jun 15 15:04:10 <quantumsummers2> Betelgeuse yes on track
+Jun 15 15:04:12 <dabbott> The voting period is four weeks commencing, 14 Jul
+Jun 15 15:04:17 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, from the email, infra are still looking for new sponsors
+Jun 15 15:04:53 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, that should work. If we need a voting period
+Jun 15 15:04:55 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers2: great, thanks
+Jun 15 15:05:26 <NeddySeagoon> 3. dabbotts member list
+Jun 15 15:05:37 <dabbott> https://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/20140614_member_list.xml
+Jun 15 15:05:41 <NeddySeagoon> I'll fix the +V list here
+Jun 15 15:05:55 <dabbott> I got with jmbsvicetto and quantumsummers that should be good
+Jun 15 15:06:11 <quantumsummers2> yep on track there
+Jun 15 15:06:39 <NeddySeagoon> WE need to fix -forums-announce, so we can send the legal notices
+Jun 15 15:06:54 <NeddySeagoon> foundations*
+Jun 15 15:06:58 <robbat2> what's broken with it?
+Jun 15 15:07:05 <robbat2> or do you just mean add new emails
+Jun 15 15:07:32 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, it needs to be updated for the revised members list
+Jun 15 15:07:40 <robbat2> that's not broken
+Jun 15 15:07:46 <robbat2> thats just out of date ;-)
+Jun 15 15:07:49 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, add/remove...
+Jun 15 15:07:55 <NeddySeagoon> hehe
+Jun 15 15:08:01 <robbat2> is that member list page the final one?
+Jun 15 15:08:10 <dabbott> yes
+Jun 15 15:08:12 <robbat2> if so, i'll update the subs now
+Jun 15 15:08:20 <NeddySeagoon> thanks robbat2
+Jun 15 15:08:36 <dabbott> only 3 non developer emails
+Jun 15 15:08:43 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, your stuff
+Jun 15 15:09:21 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, do you want a bye as you are on a phone?
+Jun 15 15:09:22 <quantumsummers2> nothing save prepping for taxes coming up end of june
+Jun 15 15:10:00 <quantumsummers2> probably not able to go into detail... not that there is much.
+Jun 15 15:10:06 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Gentoo Trademark License Agreement you have the floor
+Jun 15 15:10:42 <SwifT> I didn't receive any feedback from the gentoo e.v. side to try and have a common license, so I'll update the draft document to focus only on gentoo foundation side
+Jun 15 15:10:57 <SwifT> i'll do that later and send the revised draft to gentoo-nfp
+Jun 15 15:11:22 <SwifT> that's it
+Jun 15 15:11:36 <NeddySeagoon> thank you.
+Jun 15 15:11:46 <NeddySeagoon> Bugs
+Jun 15 15:12:05 <dabbott> I don't see anything new
+Jun 15 15:12:49 <NeddySeagoon> Is there any bug we need to discuss now ?
+Jun 15 15:13:02 <SwifT> don't think so
+Jun 15 15:13:03 <dabbott> no
+Jun 15 15:13:39 <NeddySeagoon> New Business ... there seems to be none.
+Jun 15 15:14:01 <NeddySeagoon> Cleanup ...
+Jun 15 15:14:11 <SwifT> do we need to do anything on a3li's request to exit membership? or is that already done?
+Jun 15 15:14:24 <dabbott> thats done
+Jun 15 15:14:30 <SwifT> ok, ignore me then
+Jun 15 15:14:30 <NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - 20 July 2014 19:00 UTC
+Jun 15 15:14:37 <dabbott> fine here
+Jun 15 15:14:38 <NeddySeagoon> Works for me
+Jun 15 15:14:42 <SwifT> ok here
+Jun 15 15:14:58 <SwifT> oh wait, i'm on holiday then
+Jun 15 15:15:17 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, Betelgeuse ?
+Jun 15 15:15:18 <SwifT> doesn't mean I can't join in (there's Internet where I go, it's a primary requirement here ;) but no guarantees yet
+Jun 15 15:16:03 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: let me check
+Jun 15 15:16:14 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: wfm
+Jun 15 15:16:15 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, heh - when we go away, its a primary requirement that there is no internet :)
+Jun 15 15:16:18 <quantumsummers2> should be fine
+Jun 15 15:16:42 <NeddySeagoon> OK, we have 3 and a maybe for 20 Jul.
+Jun 15 15:16:56 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business ?
+Jun 15 15:17:19 <NeddySeagoon> I intend to stand for a 4th term
+Jun 15 15:18:07 <dabbott> great :)
+Jun 15 15:18:23 <SwifT> good - the gravel banging would not sound proper without you :p
+Jun 15 15:18:31 <NeddySeagoon> AoB once more ...
+Jun 15 15:18:38 <Betelgeuse> no
+Jun 15 15:18:43 <SwifT> no ob here
+Jun 15 15:18:51 <dabbott> none here
+Jun 15 15:18:54 <NeddySeagoon> Responsibilities ... Its just the log
+Jun 15 15:19:02 <dabbott> I got it
+Jun 15 15:19:13 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks. dabbott
+Jun 15 15:19:18 <NeddySeagoon> Open Floor
+Jun 15 15:19:19 <dabbott> no problem
+Jun 15 15:20:45 * NeddySeagoon pronouces the meeting closed
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+Jul 20 15:01:13 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to open the July 20 meeting of the Gentoo Foundation Board of Trustees
+Jul 20 15:01:18 <Betelgeuse> hello
+Jul 20 15:01:20 <quantumsummers> we'll just stick with a curling team
+Jul 20 15:01:20 <NeddySeagoon> roll call
+Jul 20 15:01:25 <Betelgeuse> here
+Jul 20 15:01:27 <dabbott> here
+Jul 20 15:01:29 <SwifT> here
+Jul 20 15:01:30 <quantumsummers> here
+Jul 20 15:01:48 <NeddySeagoon> Thats everyone, so lets start.
+Jul 20 15:02:37 <NeddySeagoon> 1. Activity Tracker ... Officers reports are due for tho AGM next month. I think thats all
+Jul 20 15:03:12 <NeddySeagoon> 2. Infra Funding (Infrastructure Liaison Officer)
+Jul 20 15:03:53 <quantumsummers> I am rather conflicted about this
+Jul 20 15:04:11 <NeddySeagoon> Since we don't do employees, its my opinion that we need to formalise the Infrastructure Liaison Officer Office in our bylaws
+Jul 20 15:04:33 <quantumsummers> I think I understand the reasoning behind it, however there are a couple issues:
+Jul 20 15:04:37 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, please share
+Jul 20 15:05:13 <Betelgeuse> Don't the bylaws get registered by the state etc.?
+Jul 20 15:05:20 <Betelgeuse> So there are fees involved.
+Jul 20 15:05:24 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, No
+Jul 20 15:05:35 <quantumsummers> no fees
+Jul 20 15:05:58 <quantumsummers> it seems like we would have to potentially modify the bylaws for any officer position we want in the future
+Jul 20 15:06:29 <quantumsummers> I know the bylaws allow us to have vacant officer positions, and/or more than one position held by one person
+Jul 20 15:06:55 <quantumsummers> I guess this seems more like a duty (proper), than a position unto itself
+Jul 20 15:07:08 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, we don't have to but the Office terms op reference would anly be captured in the IRC log and be difficult to fing otherwise
+Jul 20 15:07:10 <quantumsummers> i.e. we could say that this is the duty of the assistant treasurer
+Jul 20 15:07:53 <quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: we could remedy that with a webpage outlining who does what. That, to me, would be esaier than changing the bylaws
+Jul 20 15:08:20 <NeddySeagoon> The assistant treasurer has much more scope than -infra liason
+Jul 20 15:08:25 <Betelgeuse> The bylaws already allow to appoint officers as we wish
+Jul 20 15:09:08 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, that works - it can be added to the Foundation webspace
+Jul 20 15:09:09 <Betelgeuse> "and such other officers and assistant officers and agents as may be deemed necessary may be elected or appointed by the Board of Trustees from time to time."
+Jul 20 15:09:30 <quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: we should likely have done that awhile back :)
+Jul 20 15:09:51 <quantumsummers> Betelgeuse: right, so we can appoint roles without defining them in the bylaws
+Jul 20 15:10:04 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, yes. I am concerned with the score of the office betng lost or not easy to find
+Jul 20 15:10:04 <dabbott> sounds good to me
+Jul 20 15:10:27 <quantumsummers> dabbott, SwifT have we moved most/all foundation stuff to the wiki now?
+Jul 20 15:10:39 <NeddySeagoon> WFM. We need the form of words then
+Jul 20 15:10:47 <SwifT> dabbott did all of that; most of it is moved to the wiki afaik
+Jul 20 15:10:50 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: Say we appointed someone to run one conference for the foundation. Would we change the bylaws to make that an officer job? Basically where do we draw the line.
+Jul 20 15:11:38 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, We might but as you have pointed out, we are not required to
+Jul 20 15:12:04 <dabbott> we have a foundation namespace for the wiki, anything new or edited often I have moved, the bylaws are in g.o
+Jul 20 15:12:23 <quantumsummers> I think we just need to document the officers and their roles on the wiki. We should not worry about changing the bylaws for this, as the power is already granted to do what we need without altering the bylaws
+Jul 20 15:12:30 <NeddySeagoon> The web page with the terms of reference for the office works for me
+Jul 20 15:12:45 <quantumsummers> cool, it should be flexible for us
+Jul 20 15:12:52 <dabbott> the foundation namespace pages are restricted afaik
+Jul 20 15:13:07 <NeddySeagoon> I hope so.
+Jul 20 15:13:14 <quantumsummers> we need, now, to organize who does what around here in terms of the officer roles
+Jul 20 15:13:29 <NeddySeagoon> Is the form of words I proposed OK ?
+Jul 20 15:14:03 <quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: yes, that wording works for me
+Jul 20 15:14:05 <NeddySeagoon> The infra liaison officer shall be responsible for the annual budget allocated to Gentoo infrastructure maintenance, as determined from time to time by the board.
+Jul 20 15:14:05 <NeddySeagoon> The infra liaison officer shall have the authority incur costs and to pay invoices properly incurred for Gentoo infrastructure maintenance without further reference to the board, up to the annual budget value. Receipts for all costs incurred shall be submitted to the Treasurer in a timely manner.
+Jul 20 15:14:05 <NeddySeagoon> The payment methods made available to the infrastructure liaison officer shall be determined by the board from time to time.
+Jul 20 15:14:05 <NeddySeagoon> The infrastructure lead will generally hold this office but the board may appoint an infrastructure team member other than the lead.
+Jul 20 15:14:38 <SwifT> yes, that wording is ok to me too
+Jul 20 15:14:42 <dabbott> we need to do all positions, lets get started on email and then I can move it to the wiki when it is finished
+Jul 20 15:15:00 <quantumsummers> I might change it to say "responsible for managing the annual budget allocated for Gentoo infrastructure ..."
+Jul 20 15:15:10 <quantumsummers> dabbott: sure thing
+Jul 20 15:15:22 <NeddySeagoon> Motion to adopt the above for a wiki page definging Infrastructure Liaison Officer
+Jul 20 15:15:28 <quantumsummers> seconded
+Jul 20 15:15:41 <NeddySeagoon> Vote please
+Jul 20 15:15:44 <NeddySeagoon> Aye
+Jul 20 15:15:47 <quantumsummers> aye
+Jul 20 15:15:47 <SwifT> aye
+Jul 20 15:15:50 <dabbott> aye
+Jul 20 15:16:00 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, ?
+Jul 20 15:16:19 <Betelgeuse> yes
+Jul 20 15:16:20 <quantumsummers> hmm, looks like I have to disappear in a sec, nap time is __over__
+Jul 20 15:16:22 <Betelgeuse> ayey
+Jul 20 15:16:32 <NeddySeagoon> Carried.
+Jul 20 15:16:51 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, can you mane it happen please.
+Jul 20 15:16:57 <dabbott> sure
+Jul 20 15:17:03 <NeddySeagoon> thanks
+Jul 20 15:17:09 <quantumsummers> I'll email ... sorry :(
+Jul 20 15:17:49 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, no problem ... and its going to get 50% worse too
+Jul 20 15:18:26 <dabbott> NeddySeagoon: I will send a email to trustees@ so we can add the wording for all officer positions
+Jul 20 15:18:27 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Gentoo Trademark License Agreement update
+Jul 20 15:19:36 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, OK - The others are in the bylaws already. Some officers and duties are prescribed by NM Statuate
+Jul 20 15:19:59 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, ??
+Jul 20 15:20:06 <SwifT> only excuses from my part - i wanted to update the gentoo trademark license agreement by this meeting but couldn't
+Jul 20 15:20:18 <SwifT> update = only mention gentoo foundation, inc. and not gentoo e.v.
+Jul 20 15:20:36 <SwifT> it's on my prio list for when i'm back
+Jul 20 15:20:40 <NeddySeagoon> Seems straight forward.
+Jul 20 15:20:53 <SwifT> i will send it out through e-mail once done
+Jul 20 15:20:59 <NeddySeagoon> Bugs
+Jul 20 15:21:17 <dabbott> NeddySeagoon: you forgot the election
+Jul 20 15:21:18 <NeddySeagoon> Do we need to consider any today ?
+Jul 20 15:21:42 <dabbott> no new bugs
+Jul 20 15:21:45 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, Oops, sorry
+Jul 20 15:22:01 <NeddySeagoon> 3. Trustee Election ... dabbott
+Jul 20 15:23:13 <dabbott> No election as only two nominees so NeddySeagoon and antarus are in for the next two years, congrats
+Jul 20 15:23:58 <NeddySeagoon> Thank you and thanks to the election offcials too
+Jul 20 15:24:02 <dabbott> I am going to stay on as secretary
+Jul 20 15:24:24 <dabbott> with a raise of course
+Jul 20 15:24:30 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, I'm pleased to hear that
+Jul 20 15:24:37 <SwifT> at least 25% raise ;)
+Jul 20 15:24:42 <Betelgeuse> dabbott: I approve multiplying the current salary by 2
+Jul 20 15:24:50 <SwifT> =)
+Jul 20 15:24:53 <NeddySeagoon> Sure I thinx we can double your salary
+Jul 20 15:25:29 <NeddySeagoon> New Business
+Jul 20 15:25:51 <NeddySeagoon> Membership Applications
+Jul 20 15:25:54 <NeddySeagoon> Tom Gall
+Jul 20 15:26:04 <NeddySeagoon> I vote Aye
+Jul 20 15:26:07 <Betelgeuse> aye
+Jul 20 15:26:10 <dabbott> yes
+Jul 20 15:26:25 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, ?
+Jul 20 15:26:43 <SwifT> aye of course
+Jul 20 15:26:47 <dabbott> nice to have him back, I will send him the email
+Jul 20 15:26:54 <NeddySeagoon> Carried
+Jul 20 15:27:03 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks dabbott
+Jul 20 15:27:16 <NeddySeagoon> Cleanup
+Jul 20 15:27:26 <NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - 17 Aug (AGM) 2014 19:00 UTC
+Jul 20 15:27:38 <SwifT> wfm
+Jul 20 15:27:47 <NeddySeagoon> This is our AGM Normal business is suspended
+Jul 20 15:27:57 <dabbott> fine here
+Jul 20 15:28:31 <NeddySeagoon> We will receive officers reports and welcome our new Trustee.
+Jul 20 15:28:56 <Betelgeuse> ok
+Jul 20 15:29:02 <SwifT> great
+Jul 20 15:29:07 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business ?
+Jul 20 15:29:34 <NeddySeagoon> None from me
+Jul 20 15:29:49 <SwifT> none from me either
+Jul 20 15:29:55 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, ?
+Jul 20 15:29:58 <dabbott> noone here
+Jul 20 15:30:19 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: mone
+Jul 20 15:30:28 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks.
+Jul 20 15:30:32 <NeddySeagoon> Responsibilities ...
+Jul 20 15:30:35 <dabbott> I will do the log, minutes and the motion
+Jul 20 15:30:46 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, it looks like its all yours
+Jul 20 15:30:54 <NeddySeagoon> thank you
+Jul 20 15:31:04 <NeddySeagoon> Open Floor
+Jul 20 15:31:25 * NeddySeagoon listens to the Russian Thistle
+Jul 20 15:32:42 * NeddySeagoon bangs the virtual gavel to close the meeting
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+Aug 17 15:09:40 * quantumsummers calls the meeting to begin
+Aug 17 15:10:30 <quantumsummers> Hear ye, hear ye, the Gentoo Foundation Inc's Annual General Meeting is now in session
+Aug 17 15:10:38 <Betelgeuse> I don't think the AGM cares about trustee quorum
+Aug 17 15:10:52 <quantumsummers> Roll Call (Alec will be joining shortly)
+Aug 17 15:10:59 <dabbott> here
+Aug 17 15:11:09 <Betelgeuse> here
+Aug 17 15:11:14 <quantumsummers> here
+Aug 17 15:11:25 <quantumsummers> and I have confirmation that antarus will join shortly
+Aug 17 15:11:37 <quantumsummers> #2: Who is logging?
+Aug 17 15:11:46 Usage: ME <action>, sends the action to the current channel (actions are written in the 3rd person, like /me jumps)
+Aug 17 15:11:54 <quantumsummers> dabbott: do you mind managing logs?
+Aug 17 15:11:57 * dabbott logging
+Aug 17 15:12:02 * ChanServ gives voice to antarus
+Aug 17 15:12:14 <dabbott> hi antarus welcome :)
+Aug 17 15:12:17 <quantumsummers> hello antarus
+Aug 17 15:12:20 <quantumsummers> thanks dabbott
+Aug 17 15:12:26 <antarus> really need to post these to nfp ;p
+Aug 17 15:12:49 <quantumsummers> First order of business: please review the President's Report here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~neddyseagoon/PresidentsReport_2014.xml
+Aug 17 15:12:56 <quantumsummers> antarus: that suggestion is noted
+Aug 17 15:12:56 <dabbott> antarus: sounds like your first job
+Aug 17 15:13:29 <quantumsummers> antarus: it is the same every month, 3rd Sunday 1900UTC
+Aug 17 15:13:45 <quantumsummers> Motion to accept the President's Report
+Aug 17 15:13:58 <dabbott> seconded
+Aug 17 15:14:04 <Betelgeuse> I am confused
+Aug 17 15:14:08 <Betelgeuse> Are we having the AGM?
+Aug 17 15:14:16 <quantumsummers> Betelgeuse: yes
+Aug 17 15:14:21 <quantumsummers> this is the AGM
+Aug 17 15:14:27 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: then we should see who Foundation members are present
+Aug 17 15:14:40 <Betelgeuse> before other business
+Aug 17 15:15:00 <quantumsummers> Betelgeuse: let's take care of the reports first
+Aug 17 15:15:23 <antarus> the end of the report is weird
+Aug 17 15:15:36 <antarus> 'compared to other businesses we had a great year'
+Aug 17 15:15:41 <antarus> why would we write that
+Aug 17 15:15:45 <quantumsummers> no idea
+Aug 17 15:15:53 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: In AGM it would be a quorum of members that vote
+Aug 17 15:15:54 <quantumsummers> Roy likes to think of the Foundation in business terms
+Aug 17 15:16:06 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: So how can you have a motion if we don't know whether there's a quorum?
+Aug 17 15:16:15 <antarus> quantumsummers: I'm just unsure which other businesses we are comparing against ;)
+Aug 17 15:16:47 <quantumsummers> Betelgeuse: I really don't know what you mean here. I am following protocol for all the previous years that I have been on the board.
+Aug 17 15:17:00 <quantumsummers> We do not define a quorum of members,
+Aug 17 15:17:30 <quantumsummers> as far a quorum for the board, we have one.
+Aug 17 15:17:30 <dabbott> Betelgeuse: I think its because we meet on irc so not like a meeting in person
+Aug 17 15:18:00 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: section 3.9 of bylaws
+Aug 17 15:19:07 <Betelgeuse> I am trying to relate this to Finnish AGM general practises but can't really follow
+Aug 17 15:19:26 <Betelgeuse> The boards have little to do in AGMs
+Aug 17 15:19:57 <quantumsummers> ah, ok I see what you are talking about
+Aug 17 15:20:38 <Betelgeuse> I would assume an AGM starts with a rollcall of members
+Aug 17 15:20:54 <Betelgeuse> and then see if we have quorum of members
+Aug 17 15:21:33 <Betelgeuse> plus we should state for the record whether section 3.2 was followed
+Aug 17 15:21:48 <Betelgeuse> sorry 3.4
+Aug 17 15:23:11 <dabbott> we talked about this before, the lines get blurred because of the fact we don't have a real meeting in person, this has confused me also
+Aug 17 15:23:40 <quantumsummers> so, typically in Gentoo AGM we simply present the reports, the board votes to accept, then we open the floor.
+Aug 17 15:24:19 <quantumsummers> perhaps we should amend the bylaws a bit to reflect the current precedent
+Aug 17 15:25:07 <Betelgeuse> dabbott: There are Finnish non profits that use IRC for their AGMs
+Aug 17 15:25:17 <dabbott> I wasn't here when the bylaws were put together, but looks to me they were taken from another source as a guide and then they tried to adopt
+Aug 17 15:25:38 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: but if we had a quorum of members, wouldn't the members be the ones voting?
+Aug 17 15:26:08 <antarus> can we just take attendance and move on?
+Aug 17 15:26:24 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: what you are describing is no different from a trustee meeting
+Aug 17 15:26:52 <quantumsummers> indeed, that is what is has looked like in the past
+Aug 17 15:27:21 <quantumsummers> have you, as a foundation member, ever attended an AGM?
+Aug 17 15:28:06 <quantumsummers> there are 11 +v in here besides the trustees
+Aug 17 15:28:30 <quantumsummers> our meetings are never well attended
+Aug 17 15:29:24 <Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: I am just lawyering here to follow steps
+Aug 17 15:29:46 <antarus> just take roll, why are we even arguing about this
+Aug 17 15:29:49 <antarus> it takes like 2 seconds
+Aug 17 15:29:51 <dabbott> 11 in attendance and 83 members
+Aug 17 15:30:22 <quantumsummers> Member Roll Call - all members please state that you are present
+Aug 17 15:30:41 <quantumsummers> as a member, I am present
+Aug 17 15:30:48 <dabbott> here
+Aug 17 15:30:49 <Betelgeuse> here
+Aug 17 15:30:56 <antarus> here
+Aug 17 15:31:43 <quantumsummers> waiting 30 more seconds for any stragglers
+Aug 17 15:32:39 <quantumsummers> last call for roll
+Aug 17 15:32:49 <quantumsummers> ok then.
+Aug 17 15:33:02 <quantumsummers> we do not have a member quorum
+Aug 17 15:33:22 <Betelgeuse> ok, thanks
+Aug 17 15:33:26 <quantumsummers> luckily for us, we have no special business outside of the following:
+Aug 17 15:33:37 <quantumsummers> 1) welcome new board member Alec Warner (antarus)
+Aug 17 15:33:59 <antarus> yay!
+Aug 17 15:34:00 <quantumsummers> 2) Review and vote on the acceptance of the reports from Roy and David
+Aug 17 15:34:19 <quantumsummers> thanks for joining the board antarus, may your tenure be fruitful
+Aug 17 15:34:37 <quantumsummers> we all appreciate you joining
+Aug 17 15:34:39 <antarus> fruit is delicious
+Aug 17 15:34:45 <dabbott> yes thanks alec
+Aug 17 15:35:05 <antarus> as an aside, I am not doing much irc these days; so email / phone is best for getting a hold of me
+Aug 17 15:35:09 <antarus> as quantumsummers did earlier ;)
+Aug 17 15:35:30 <quantumsummers> I will also note for the record, that David Abbott has stepped down from the board, but has agreed to remain on as an officer, Secretary.
+Aug 17 15:35:55 <quantumsummers> so, many thanks to David for offering his time and expertise as Secretary
+Aug 17 15:36:32 <antarus> indeed, thanks David
+Aug 17 15:36:49 <dabbott> np
+Aug 17 15:37:19 <Betelgeuse> thanks
+Aug 17 15:38:02 <quantumsummers> I would like to bring the President's Report up for a vote now, shall I proceed?
+Aug 17 15:38:28 <dabbott> yes
+Aug 17 15:38:31 <quantumsummers> alternatively, if anyone would like Roy to make any changes prior to acceptance, we can vote via mail after the respective changes have been made
+Aug 17 15:38:46 <quantumsummers> similarly for the Secretary's Report
+Aug 17 15:39:02 <quantumsummers> we will be voting via email for the Treasurer's Report
+Aug 17 15:39:22 <antarus> I'm not sure I care enough about the closing remarks to delay it ;p
+Aug 17 15:39:34 <quantumsummers> antarus: please decide
+Aug 17 15:39:39 <quantumsummers> if you care enough :D
+Aug 17 15:39:49 <quantumsummers> since you're not sure
+Aug 17 15:40:05 <antarus> we can proceed
+Aug 17 15:40:10 <quantumsummers> very well.
+Aug 17 15:40:37 <quantumsummers> The motion to accept the President's Report was seconded earlier. Please vote:
+Aug 17 15:40:42 <quantumsummers> aye
+Aug 17 15:40:54 <dabbott> aye
+Aug 17 15:40:56 <Betelgeuse> aye
+Aug 17 15:41:23 <antarus> aye
+Aug 17 15:41:28 <quantumsummers> the motion is carried
+Aug 17 15:41:43 <quantumsummers> New motion: Accept the Secretary's Report
+Aug 17 15:43:08 <dabbott> well im not on the board so I cannot second
+Aug 17 15:43:16 <quantumsummers> anyone care to second this motion? Alternatively shall we table the motion with requests for edits?
+Aug 17 15:43:47 <Betelgeuse> seconded
+Aug 17 15:43:52 <quantumsummers> thanks Betelgeuse
+Aug 17 15:44:08 <quantumsummers> Please vote to accept the Secretary's Report as it stands:
+Aug 17 15:44:14 <quantumsummers> aye
+Aug 17 15:44:17 <Betelgeuse> aye
+Aug 17 15:44:21 <antarus> aye
+Aug 17 15:44:33 <quantumsummers> the motion is carried
+Aug 17 15:45:03 <quantumsummers> As previously stated, with apologies, the Treasurer's Report is not complete. Targetting this coming week for a complete draft.
+Aug 17 15:45:40 <quantumsummers> Next up. Date of next meeting: It looks like September 21st, 2014 1900UTC.
+Aug 17 15:46:02 <quantumsummers> I note that the table in the meeting agenda shows the 17th, which is a Wednesday
+Aug 17 15:46:35 <quantumsummers> everyone OK with 2014-09-21-1900UTC ?
+Aug 17 15:46:39 <dabbott> thats correct
+Aug 17 15:47:20 <quantumsummers> ok, date of next meeting is set 2014-09-21-1900UTC
+Aug 17 15:47:37 <quantumsummers> I call for Any Other Business from the board or officers
+Aug 17 15:48:33 <quantumsummers> If no other business from the board or officers, I shall move to the cleanup section, which shall be followed by Open Floor.
+Aug 17 15:48:39 <quantumsummers> last chance ...
+Aug 17 15:48:52 <quantumsummers> Ok, Responsibilities:
+Aug 17 15:48:55 <dabbott> I will do the log minutes and motions
+Aug 17 15:49:19 <quantumsummers> Thank you dabbott. There are no emails to send.
+Aug 17 15:50:15 <quantumsummers> I hereby open the floor to any member or attendee for other business
+Aug 17 15:50:52 <quantumsummers> please bring forth any topic you may have
+Aug 17 15:51:01 <quantumsummers> don't be shy
+Aug 17 15:51:27 <quantumsummers> you have one more minute to bring business before the board please
+Aug 17 15:52:29 <quantumsummers> As there is no member or attendee business, I officially close this year's Annual General Meeting. Thank you all for attending. May the source be with you.
+Aug 17 15:52:36 * quantumsummers bangs the gavel to close the meeting
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+Sep 21 15:13:25 <NeddySeagoon> We have a quorum, so lets start
+Sep 21 15:14:08 <NeddySeagoon> Who is logging the meeting - dabbot, I guess this falls to you
+Sep 21 15:14:24 <dabbott> got it :)
+Sep 21 15:15:18 <NeddySeagoon> Sorry I missed the AGM. Domestic cirumstances changed since we set the calendar
+Sep 21 15:15:54 <NeddySeagoon> Nothing in the Activity Tracker
+Sep 21 15:16:29 <NeddySeagoon> Credit card for AWS usage - It seems we have an Amex.
+Sep 21 15:17:11 <NeddySeagoon> Details need to be made available to infra - thats an action on quantumsummers
+Sep 21 15:17:36 <Betelgeuse> If not, I think it should be reasonably easy to get a prepaid virtual one
+Sep 21 15:17:46 <NeddySeagoon> We need to skip quantumsummers stuff as hes not here
+Sep 21 15:17:48 <Betelgeuse> I know there are Finnish providers so there must be US ones
+Sep 21 15:18:21 <NeddySeagoon> "robbat2 he's got an amex for our needs, he's just travelling and doesn't have it on hand to give me the details yet"
+Sep 21 15:18:35 <NeddySeagoon> looks like its well in hand
+Sep 21 15:19:19 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Gentoo Trademark License Agreement - update please
+Sep 21 15:19:43 <SwifT> the latest "version"of the updated agreement has been sent off to gentoo-nfp for final discussion
+Sep 21 15:19:49 <SwifT> no feedback ont he mailinglist from it though
+Sep 21 15:20:13 <SwifT> it focuses on the gentoo foundation alone, as gentoo e.v. didn't really act upon the question for potential "merger" of their license usage and ours
+Sep 21 15:20:26 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, is it wort a post on gentoo-annouce ?
+Sep 21 15:20:43 <NeddySeagoon> worth*
+Sep 21 15:20:48 <SwifT> NeddySeagoon: still in the "feedback wanted" state, or afterwards when it's published?
+Sep 21 15:21:22 <SwifT> for the feedback, I might better ask gentoo-project as well ( not many are on the -nfp one)
+Sep 21 15:21:26 <NeddySeagoon> In feedback wanted. Ance its published, we don,t really want to change it
+Sep 21 15:22:06 <SwifT> I'm not sure it's worth an -announce mail, but I'm not opposed to it either
+Sep 21 15:22:46 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, just to say its on -nfp if you want to review and comment
+Sep 21 15:23:04 <SwifT> ok, will do
+Sep 21 15:24:22 <NeddySeagoon> Bugs I don't see any to review today
+Sep 21 15:24:22 <SwifT> other than that nothing major to say onit
+Sep 21 15:25:13 <NeddySeagoon> New Business. Gentoo Developers applying for membership
+Sep 21 15:25:40 <NeddySeagoon> Xavier Miller and Kristian Fiskerstrand
+Sep 21 15:25:54 <NeddySeagoon> All those in favour say aye
+Sep 21 15:26:00 <NeddySeagoon> Aye
+Sep 21 15:26:05 <SwifT> aye
+Sep 21 15:26:19 * NeddySeagoon looks at Betelgeuse
+Sep 21 15:26:33 <dabbott> heh
+Sep 21 15:26:50 <Betelgeuse> aye
+Sep 21 15:27:10 <NeddySeagoon> Thank you. Mootion carried.
+Sep 21 15:27:34 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, please write the emails.
+Sep 21 15:27:43 <dabbott> will do
+Sep 21 15:27:55 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business
+Sep 21 15:28:00 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, ?
+Sep 21 15:28:05 <SwifT> nope,not from me
+Sep 21 15:28:09 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, ?
+Sep 21 15:28:23 <dabbott> Copyright assignment status
+Sep 21 15:28:46 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, you have the floor
+Sep 21 15:28:54 <dabbott> Betelgeuse: added to agenda :)
+Sep 21 15:28:58 <Betelgeuse> Do we have existing docs to assign copyright to the Foundation?
+Sep 21 15:29:32 <dabbott> https://www.gentoo.org/main/en/name-logo.xml
+Sep 21 15:29:57 <Betelgeuse> dabbott: does not seem related?
+Sep 21 15:30:05 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, rich0 did something with this - I would need to read logs to see where it got to
+Sep 21 15:31:00 <NeddySeagoon> From memory it got to our legal team for review
+Sep 21 15:31:16 <dabbott> http://dev.gentoo.org/~rich0/copyrightpolicy.xml
+Sep 21 15:31:22 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, That well be a no, then
+Sep 21 15:32:43 <Betelgeuse> Ok. I will take that as a needs work item then.
+Sep 21 15:33:10 <NeddySeagoon> yep. Are you volunteering to take it on ?
+Sep 21 15:33:14 <SwifT> http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/legal/copyrightpolicy.xml is the last I find of it
+Sep 21 15:33:34 <SwifT> and it's indeed still draft
+Sep 21 15:33:38 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: No promises to finish but you can attribute it to me.
+Sep 21 15:33:46 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: I am working to clear a couple estates atm
+Sep 21 15:33:58 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, understood and thank you.
+Sep 21 15:34:40 <NeddySeagoon> I have one item. Exchanging contact details. I'll email the alias
+Sep 21 15:35:13 <NeddySeagoon> Responsibilities
+Sep 21 15:35:29 <NeddySeagoon> Its looks like they are all yours dabbott
+Sep 21 15:35:39 <dabbott> yep I got it :)
+Sep 21 15:35:54 <NeddySeagoon> Open Floor
+Sep 21 15:36:48 <NeddySeagoon> Is antarus on the alias ?
+Sep 21 15:38:01 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the meeting
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+Oct 19 15:00:08 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to open tho Oct 2014 Trustees meeting
+Oct 19 15:00:15 <NeddySeagoon> Roll call
+Oct 19 15:01:07 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, ?
+Oct 19 15:02:43 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: hello
+Oct 19 15:03:17 <NeddySeagoon> Hi Betelgeuse , when swift gets back we will have a quorum
+Oct 19 15:05:34 * robbat2 waves
+Oct 19 15:05:38 <SwifT> i'm here
+Oct 19 15:06:10 <NeddySeagoon> Ok, lets go - we have 3 out of 5
+Oct 19 15:06:21 * dabbott o/
+Oct 19 15:06:37 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, are you logging?
+Oct 19 15:06:48 <dabbott> yes on it :)
+Oct 19 15:07:36 <NeddySeagoon> Activity tracker. Our IRS Return 990 is due next month#
+Oct 19 15:08:09 <NeddySeagoon> as is our Annual Report - New Mexico
+Oct 19 15:08:42 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, Are those yours or Matts?
+Oct 19 15:09:05 <dabbott> Matt did them last year
+Oct 19 15:09:43 <NeddySeagoon> As hes not here a reminder email is probably in order
+Oct 19 15:09:55 <dabbott> for sure the 990, I could do the annual report but its better if he pays from the foundation funds
+Oct 19 15:10:08 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, yep
+Oct 19 15:10:58 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, Gentoo Copyright Policy any update ?
+Oct 19 15:11:28 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: nope, sorry
+Oct 19 15:11:55 <Betelgeuse> Need to get some personal business out of the way before that can continue
+Oct 19 15:12:01 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers isn't here, so we will skip his bits
+Oct 19 15:12:17 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, sure RL comes first
+Oct 19 15:12:58 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Gentoo Trademark License Agreement ... any feedback from the lists?
+Oct 19 15:13:15 <SwifT> on the trademark, I'm discussing the idea of having a cooperative trademark with Gentoo e.V. through/with Sebastian Pipping
+Oct 19 15:13:29 <SwifT> it's not through the mailinglist, usually by call and e-mail
+Oct 19 15:13:47 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Thats worthwhile progress.
+Oct 19 15:13:50 <SwifT> I try to send updates to trustees@gentoo.org when some steps are taken as a way to "docuemt" things
+Oct 19 15:14:09 * ChanServ gives voice to fuzzyray
+Oct 19 15:14:18 <NeddySeagoon> That works. Are there any big disagreements?
+Oct 19 15:14:19 <SwifT> yes, I'm glad things are progressing on this side. I saw I got a mailfrom sping today so might have more info tomorrow or so
+Oct 19 15:14:35 <NeddySeagoon> ok
+Oct 19 15:15:00 <SwifT> we're still in the "discovery" phase. there are some differences between the Gentoo e.V. one and ours, but that doesn't mean that Gentoo e.V. is against the draft we have (which is more liberal than tehirs right now)
+Oct 19 15:15:01 <NeddySeagoon> Bugs I'm not aware of anything pressing
+Oct 19 15:15:52 <SwifT> Betelgeuse: on the copyright stuff, shall I send my remarks to you directly or is there a bug to comment on?
+Oct 19 15:16:03 <SwifT> Betelgeuse: it's mainly to answer your open question on docs
+Oct 19 15:16:05 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, they have to comply with EU law and we have US law. We can sill have a common policy though
+Oct 19 15:16:23 <SwifT> NeddySeagoon: yes, I don'tthink law will be a problem
+Oct 19 15:16:38 <Betelgeuse> SwifT: No bug.
+Oct 19 15:16:56 <NeddySeagoon> Anyone want to go through the bugs?
+Oct 19 15:17:06 <SwifT> NeddySeagoon: no
+Oct 19 15:17:13 <Betelgeuse> I think at the very least we should cross license
+Oct 19 15:17:16 <Betelgeuse> the trademarks
+Oct 19 15:17:44 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, yes, that will formalise the way we work.
+Oct 19 15:17:56 <NeddySeagoon> New Business ... there is not.
+Oct 19 15:18:00 <NeddySeagoon> none*
+Oct 19 15:18:14 <NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - 16 Nov 2014 19:00 UTC
+Oct 19 15:18:32 <NeddySeagoon> WFM - we will be on UTC then
+Oct 19 15:19:11 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Betelgeuse ^^
+Oct 19 15:19:24 <SwifT> lemme quickly check my agenda
+Oct 19 15:19:24 <Betelgeuse> wfm
+Oct 19 15:20:00 <dabbott> Can everyone send there current address to @trustess for the annual report, we will need alex's also
+Oct 19 15:20:08 <SwifT> looks to work forme
+Oct 19 15:20:33 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, I did that a few weeks ago.
+Oct 19 15:20:49 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business ...
+Oct 19 15:20:56 <NeddySeagoon> Nothing from me
+Oct 19 15:21:33 <SwifT> dabbott: if you can't find the addresses, can you mail trustees@ so we can just reply to that (instead of creating single, individual e-mail threads for each address ;-) ?
+Oct 19 15:21:50 <Betelgeuse> I already emailed
+Oct 19 15:21:54 <Betelgeuse> You can reply to that
+Oct 19 15:22:02 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, AoB ?
+Oct 19 15:22:03 <SwifT> yeah, just noticed
+Oct 19 15:22:14 <Betelgeuse> no AoB from me
+Oct 19 15:22:20 <SwifT> no other B from me
+Oct 19 15:22:39 <NeddySeagoon> Responsibilities .. dabbott all yours :)
+Oct 19 15:22:48 <dabbott> ok
+Oct 19 15:22:51 <NeddySeagoon> Open Floor ...
+Oct 19 15:23:59 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the Oct 2014 Trustees meeting
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+Nov 16 14:01:27 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to start the November 2014 Trustees meeting
+Nov 16 14:01:31 <Betelgeuse> present
+Nov 16 14:01:35 <SwifT> you're taking your role as "old dude" too seriously :P
+Nov 16 14:01:37 <NeddySeagoon> Roll call ...
+Nov 16 14:02:06 <SwifT> I'm here
+Nov 16 14:02:16 <NeddySeagoon> antarus|web, quantumsummers ?
+Nov 16 14:03:21 <NeddySeagoon> Well we have a quarum anyway ... lets start.
+Nov 16 14:03:27 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, ?
+Nov 16 14:03:33 <dabbott> im here
+Nov 16 14:03:50 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks are you logging?
+Nov 16 14:03:57 <dabbott> yes sir will do
+Nov 16 14:04:13 <NeddySeagoon> Thanxs dabbott
+Nov 16 14:04:15 <antarus|web> I am here ;)
+Nov 16 14:04:37 <NeddySeagoon> IRS Return 990 ... That must be about overdue
+Nov 16 14:05:08 <NeddySeagoon> Due yesterday ...
+Nov 16 14:05:39 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, do you know what happened wit our filing?
+Nov 16 14:05:42 <NeddySeagoon> with*
+Nov 16 14:06:07 <dabbott> I did the corp with NM no idea about 990
+Nov 16 14:06:43 <NeddySeagoon> I'll email quantumsummers
+Nov 16 14:08:05 <NeddySeagoon> The report to NM was next on the activity tracker - care to update it dabbot
+Nov 16 14:08:37 <dabbott> we are in good standing I updated it last month
+Nov 16 14:09:12 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, Your turn ... Gentoo Copyright Policy ... last month, you needed RL to calm down
+Nov 16 14:09:24 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks dabbott
+Nov 16 14:09:47 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: We only finished one out of two estate inventories this week. Let's get back to it next month.
+Nov 16 14:10:08 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, hehe RL continues
+Nov 16 14:10:13 <NeddySeagoon> thanxs
+Nov 16 14:10:41 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers isn't here.
+Nov 16 14:11:14 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Gentoo Trademark License Agreement - progress update ?
+Nov 16 14:11:50 <SwifT> I'm waiting for the gentoo e.v. feedback, but that won't come before december 27th or so (the time that they get together to vote on stuff)
+Nov 16 14:12:18 <SwifT> I did get the suggestion to add in examples ot the trademark document - i'm still looking at how I can do that, either in the document or through a FAQ
+Nov 16 14:12:37 <SwifT> other than that no more news
+Nov 16 14:14:11 <NeddySeagoon> The document should be just that. Examples should be external. We may need to get legal opinion before we adopt it, so short is good.
+Nov 16 14:14:43 <NeddySeagoon> Bugs Is there anything pressing?
+Nov 16 14:14:43 <Betelgeuse> Having a US trademark attorney read the final proposal is prudent
+Nov 16 14:15:06 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, agreed
+Nov 16 14:15:09 <SwifT> ack
+Nov 16 14:15:41 <Betelgeuse> Especially considering the recent GNOME / Groupon incident
+Nov 16 14:15:54 <NeddySeagoon> What wan that ?
+Nov 16 14:16:00 <NeddySeagoon> was*
+Nov 16 14:16:12 <SwifT> Groupon using the GNOME name for one of their products
+Nov 16 14:16:25 <SwifT> they did succumb to pressure afaik
+Nov 16 14:16:40 <NeddySeagoon> I'll read it up on the web
+Nov 16 14:17:31 <NeddySeagoon> There is a council in the UK that uses Gentoo for its housing info ...
+Nov 16 14:18:05 <NeddySeagoon> No more on bugs this month then?
+Nov 16 14:18:46 <NeddySeagoon> New Business ....
+Nov 16 14:19:33 <NeddySeagoon> Membership Applications One dev ... Alex Brandt (alunduil) all those in favour please say Aye
+Nov 16 14:19:36 <NeddySeagoon> Aye
+Nov 16 14:19:38 <Betelgeuse> Aye
+Nov 16 14:19:40 <SwifT> aye
+Nov 16 14:19:56 <antarus|web> aye
+Nov 16 14:20:28 <NeddySeagoon> Carried. dabbott please do the welcome email
+Nov 16 14:20:37 <dabbott> will do
+Nov 16 14:20:53 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks
+Nov 16 14:21:28 <NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - 21 Dec 2014 19:00 UTC Thats the shortest day (in the Northern hemisphere anyway)
+Nov 16 14:22:07 <SwifT> thanks all
+Nov 16 14:22:26 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, we are not quite done ...
+Nov 16 14:23:01 <SwifT> sorry
+Nov 16 14:23:11 <antarus|web> heh, that is 9am for me. I should be able to make it
+Nov 16 14:23:34 <Betelgeuse> I will be in Ontario but I assume the time works
+Nov 16 14:23:54 <NeddySeagoon> antarus|web, I thought you were UTC -8
+Nov 16 14:24:19 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, DoNM?
+Nov 16 14:24:46 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business ...
+Nov 16 14:24:53 <SwifT> donm?
+Nov 16 14:25:13 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Date of Next Meeting - 21 Dec 2014 19:00 UT
+Nov 16 14:25:28 <antarus|web> NeddySeagoon: I am in Michigan that week
+Nov 16 14:25:33 <SwifT> NeddySeagoon: ok for me
+Nov 16 14:25:38 <antarus|web> but its fine
+Nov 16 14:26:05 <NeddySeagoon> antarus|web Thats UTC-6 then ?
+Nov 16 14:26:52 <NeddySeagoon> I have 2 items of AoB but I'll write to the alias
+Nov 16 14:27:15 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse AoB ?
+Nov 16 14:27:19 <Betelgeuse> no
+Nov 16 14:27:28 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, AoB ?
+Nov 16 14:27:31 <SwifT> nope
+Nov 16 14:27:45 <NeddySeagoon> antarus|web, AoB ?
+Nov 16 14:28:13 <antarus|web> none
+Nov 16 14:28:26 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, you OK with all the Responsibilities?
+Nov 16 14:28:44 <dabbott> yep got it :)
+Nov 16 14:28:49 <NeddySeagoon> and last of all Open Floor ...
+Nov 16 14:28:55 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, Thanks
+Nov 16 14:29:57 * NeddySeagoon bangs the virtual gavel to close the meeting
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+Dec 21 14:00:16 * NeddySeagoon calls the December Trustees meeting to order
+Dec 21 14:00:24 <Betelgeuse> Present
+Dec 21 14:00:30 * SwifT replies "Present"
+Dec 21 14:00:50 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, quantumsummers antarus ?
+Dec 21 14:01:00 <SwifT> ^^
+Dec 21 14:01:10 * NeddySeagoon gives channel operator status to antarus
+Dec 21 14:01:49 <NeddySeagoon> We have a quorum ... lets start
+Dec 21 14:02:16 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, are you logging? I mirght be, my logger is here
+Dec 21 14:02:28 <Betelgeuse> My irssi always logs any way
+Dec 21 14:02:43 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, thanks
+Dec 21 14:03:15 <NeddySeagoon> Item 1 IRS Return 990 - quantumsummers confirmed that it was submitted in good time
+Dec 21 14:03:32 <Betelgeuse> good
+Dec 21 14:05:06 <NeddySeagoon> Item 2 Activity Tracker Nothing due. dabbott submitted the annual report, so we remain in good standing
+Dec 21 14:05:59 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, Hows RL? any progress on the Gentoo Copyright Policy
+Dec 21 14:06:23 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: Last estate inventory in January 8th
+Dec 21 14:06:59 <NeddySeagoon> OK, lets postpone further action until the Feb meeting
+Dec 21 14:07:04 <Betelgeuse> yeah
+Dec 21 14:07:37 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers isn't here, so we will skip his bit
+Dec 21 14:07:58 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, Your turn Gentoo Trademark License Agreement?
+Dec 21 14:08:12 <SwifT> I'll only know something about it in our january meeting
+Dec 21 14:08:20 <NeddySeagoon> OK
+Dec 21 14:08:21 <SwifT> gentoo e.v. has its annual meeting next week iirc
+Dec 21 14:08:54 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT will you attend the e.V. meeting? I assume its virtual?
+Dec 21 14:09:08 <SwifT> it's physical, but no - i wont attend it myself
+Dec 21 14:09:49 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, I bet they don't get many attendees at a physical meeting
+Dec 21 14:10:06 <NeddySeagoon> Bugs ...
+Dec 21 14:10:30 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: At least Finnish law requires the meeting to be physical
+Dec 21 14:10:40 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: However only one person needs to be on site
+Dec 21 14:10:46 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: Others can join remote
+Dec 21 14:10:54 <Betelgeuse> So really a technicality
+Dec 21 14:11:04 <SwifT> lol
+Dec 21 14:11:06 <SwifT> ;)
+Dec 21 14:11:14 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, New Mexico only requires that all participents can hear one another.
+Dec 21 14:11:45 <Betelgeuse> However the org neds to have explicitly approved joining remote
+Dec 21 14:11:47 <NeddySeagoon> and that the meeting be open
+Dec 21 14:12:00 <Betelgeuse> Usually by the board or in the rules of the org
+Dec 21 14:12:21 <NeddySeagoon> Bug 476718
+Dec 21 14:12:23 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/476718 "Request for bitcoin donation support"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; rich0:trustees
+Dec 21 14:13:31 * rich0_ is now known as rich0
+Dec 21 14:13:51 <Betelgeuse> Coinbase seems ok to me. I would like an ACK from our accountant first though.
+Dec 21 14:14:41 <NeddySeagoon> We discussed bitcoin and stocks and shares donations a year or so ago and decided that they should be discouraged. But if anyone insisted, we would cash them soonest as holding other forms of investment is not our coure business
+Dec 21 14:15:08 <NeddySeagoon> core*
+Dec 21 14:15:34 <Betelgeuse> Is there any benefit for direct stocks and shares donations instead of the donor converting them to cash first?
+Dec 21 14:15:50 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, not to us, no.
+Dec 21 14:16:17 <NeddySeagoon> Bitcoin values vary considerably ...
+Dec 21 14:16:24 <Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: I was mainly asking from donor perspective
+Dec 21 14:17:42 <NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, I don't know the tax laws well enough to comment. We need a USA member
+Dec 21 14:18:13 <SwifT> not only tax laws, but we also need a more worked out suggestion than just "please accept bitcoin"
+Dec 21 14:18:23 <NeddySeagoon> ping Guest21526
+Dec 21 14:19:10 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT, exactly. Thats why we opted to discourage it when it was last discussed
+Dec 21 14:19:54 <NeddySeagoon> Lets wove on ... we cannot resolve it today
+Dec 21 14:20:00 <NeddySeagoon> move*
+Dec 21 14:20:50 <Betelgeuse> agreed
+Dec 21 14:21:06 <NeddySeagoon> bug 530480
+Dec 21 14:21:08 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/530480 "Funding Request: Upgrades & Shipping for Hyves donated servers"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; robbat2:trustees
+Dec 21 14:21:56 <NeddySeagoon> That seems to be going OK - no immediate action required from us, unless you know differently
+Dec 21 14:22:44 <NeddySeagoon> Cleanup ...
+Dec 21 14:22:54 <Betelgeuse> The upgrades were already paid for
+Dec 21 14:23:11 <NeddySeagoon> yep
+Dec 21 14:23:19 <NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - 18 Jan 2015 19:00 UTC
+Dec 21 14:23:56 <SwifT> probably ok for me, I'm on a weekend trip then but probably back by 19UTC
+Dec 21 14:24:07 <Betelgeuse> ok
+Dec 21 14:24:20 <NeddySeagoon> I'm OK
+Dec 21 14:24:23 <NeddySeagoon> Who will post the log? Minutes? ... I nominate dabbott
+Dec 21 14:24:25 <dabbott> I got the log, minutes etc, also will start the new agenda for Jan
+Dec 21 14:24:43 <dabbott> :) hi everyone
+Dec 21 14:24:45 <NeddySeagoon> hehe ... well timed David
+Dec 21 14:24:53 <dabbott> I was waiting
+Dec 21 14:24:59 <dabbott> heh
+Dec 21 14:25:12 <SwifT> ;)
+Dec 21 14:25:12 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business
+Dec 21 14:25:57 <Betelgeuse> none here
+Dec 21 14:26:05 <SwifT> nope
+Dec 21 14:26:14 <NeddySeagoon> I have two things that I wrote to the alias about ... it looks like we dropped the ball but another month won't hurt.
+Dec 21 14:26:49 <Betelgeuse> dabbott: Did we have any membership business? I remember emails but maybe it was already for the last one.
+Dec 21 14:27:20 <dabbott> afair it was for the last meeting
+Dec 21 14:27:47 <Betelgeuse> yeah confirmed by inbox
+Dec 21 14:27:52 <Betelgeuse> sorry about the noise
+Dec 21 14:27:54 <NeddySeagoon> One of them wos OVH Gentoo - thas a sore in the side of the French forum. The other was a trademark violation - someone wrapping Gentoo docs vint ads
+Dec 21 14:29:03 <NeddySeagoon> Lets get it on the Jan agenda and give everyone a chance to read the email threads
+Dec 21 14:29:11 <Betelgeuse> sounds good
+Dec 21 14:29:36 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business ...
+Dec 21 14:30:13 <dabbott> NeddySeagoon: send an email to the alias with the agenda info and I will add it
+Dec 21 14:30:18 <NeddySeagoon> That should have been Open Floor
+Dec 21 14:30:30 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, ok
+Dec 21 14:31:19 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the meeting